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Old 19-07-2015, 08:36 PM   #2401
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British Airways 747 at YEG


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Ya it was a diversion, looks good with KLM there.



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Old 20-07-2015, 06:20 AM   #2403
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All the tails look great with that tower - especially how the British logo flow so nicely with the tower's design.
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Amazing there's also an Air Canada plane at the Airport...

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Old 20-07-2015, 09:14 AM   #2405
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Amazing there's also an Air Canada plan at the Airport...
Probably a medical diversion too!
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Old 20-07-2015, 09:48 AM   #2406
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Noticed WestJet announced new winter destinations for YYC and YVR. Good thing we are served well by Sunwing.
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Old 20-07-2015, 09:49 AM   #2407
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^^^ Air Canada plan? To divert more planes from Edmonton to YYC?
We already know that, thank you
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Old 20-07-2015, 11:09 AM   #2408
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Noticed WestJet announced new winter destinations for YYC and YVR. Good thing we are served well by Sunwing.
Vancouver got Orlando, a route we already have.

There are increases in WestJet's schedule for Edmonton.

Over last winter:

Abbotsford 13-20/week
Halifax 0-5/week
Kamloops 0-7/week
Kelowna 20-27/weeek
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Halifax is nice to see.
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Noticed WestJet announced new winter destinations for YYC and YVR. Good thing we are served well by Sunwing.
I would prefer MORE non-stops on WJ to Sunwing. Quite a few of the Sunwing flights stop in YYC both ways. As far as AC goes they will soon be squeezed out totally as WJ builds domestic frequency...setting the stage for a new airline to serve the domestic market.
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Old 24-07-2015, 01:23 AM   #2411
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Has there been any discussion of a possible airport to Edmonton Link? Similar to that of the Toronto UP Express?
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There is now, the 747! Ok, more akin to the rocket... but works very well other than early morning flights.

That said, LRT should get there one day... but still 10-15yrs off i'd say. If you search hard enough, you can find the proposed alignments.
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Old 24-07-2015, 09:22 AM   #2413
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I'm fairly certain that public transit to EIA has been discussed in about a dozen threads already!
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Has there been any discussion of a possible airport to Edmonton Link? Similar to that of the Toronto UP Express?
Yeah. The consensus (in the C2E sense of the term ) is just tweak the 747 with something like:
  • Move the YEG stop away from the smoking area.
  • Allow use of debit/credit for tickets.
  • Make an integrated fare product an option (so you can get an ETS transfer.)
  • Improve signage/advertising.
  • Improve frequency to minimum 30 minutes.

What's less agreed is:
  • LRT to YEG (would need the Capital Line to more than double in length.)
  • Route 757 to Downtown.
  • Route 767 to WEM.
  • Use of regular transit fare to ride.
  • Smaller buses (to save fuel.)

I think we're somewhere around there.
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Old 27-07-2015, 07:39 AM   #2415
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We’ve added more non-stop service from Edmonton.
We love our job, especially when it comes to going to new places. So we're happy to announce new non-stop service from Edmonton to Nanaimo, British Columbia. We've also added more flights between Edmonton and Grande Prairie, Kelowna, Regina and Saskatoon. Welcome aboard.


New schedule highlights:

Route Frequency Dates
Edmonton – Grande Prairie 23x weekly Starting October 26, 2015
Edmonton – Kelowna 4x daily Starting December 15, 2015
Edmonton – Nanaimo Daily Starting December 15, 2015
Edmonton – Regina 3x daily October 25, 2015
Edmonton – Saskatoon 3x weekly Starting December 15, 2015
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Old 27-07-2015, 08:16 AM   #2416
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Should that be 3 x daily to Saskatoon?
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Old 27-07-2015, 08:33 AM   #2417
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Looks like it as per this table. note that it is 60+ additional flights per week for YEG.


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Old 27-07-2015, 08:35 AM   #2418
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Happy to hear about the direct flight to central Vancouver island (long awaited). This will be great for worker connections to northern Alberta , family visits and winter getaways for golfing and boating
On the island, a good option with the Canadian dollar being so low at present.
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Happy to hear about the direct flight to central Vancouver island (long awaited). This will be great for worker connections to northern Alberta , family visits and winter getaways for golfing and boating
On the island, a good option with the Canadian dollar being so low at present.
Nanaimo is only about an hour and half from both Comox and Victoria airports, which (I believe) have 3 or 4 daily flights (all WJ) between them year round. I am hopeful the flight will work out, but demand will have to come almost entirely out of/to Nanaimo, as the rest of the island is fairly well covered. Maybe those routes are bursting at the seams, I've only flown that way a couple times.
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Over the last couple of years the flight growth at YCD has been impressive. With three daily flights to Calgary from Nanaimo between WestJet and Air Canada, the Edmonton flight is a bit of catch up.

The Cassidy airport is increasing preferred over Victoria by the Cowichan valley area due traffic in the Colwood and Malahat chokepoints. I think the new flight will have legs.
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I wonder how much of this demand is from Iceland air and KLM connections?
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Happy to hear about the direct flight to central Vancouver island (long awaited). This will be great for worker connections to northern Alberta , family visits and winter getaways for golfing and boating
On the island, a good option with the Canadian dollar being so low at present.
My son flew Edmonton to Namino via Calgary on a school trip recently, this flight would have made life a lot simpler for the teachers. I'm guessing schools alone will take a big chunk of the flight.
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Old 27-07-2015, 12:02 PM   #2423
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^^ Good question. The new flights certainly won't hurt the Icelandair / KLM feed.
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Here's a look at WestJet's Encore routes. I compared pre-Encore numbers with winter 2015-16 numbers. Abbotsford, Fort McMurray and Kelowna remain a mix of mainline and Encore, while Grande Prairie, Regina and Saskatoon are all-Encore.

Every route has seen an increase in frequency, and all but one has seen an increase in seats. Encore has also opened up two new routes for Edmonton, Kamloops and Nanaimo.

Abbotsford
2195 weekly seats, up from 1649.
20 weekly flights, up from 13.

Fort McMurray
2633 weekly seats, up from 1887.
24 weekly flights, up from 14.

Grande Prairie
1794 weekly seats, down from 1904.
23 weekly flights, up from 14.

Kamloops
546 weekly seats, up from 0.
7 weekly flights, up from 0.

Kelowna
2758 weekly seats, up from 2618.
27 weekly flights, up from 20.

Nanaimo
546 weekly seats, up from 0.
7 weekly flights, up from 0.

Regina
1638 weekly seats up from 816.
21 weekly flights, up from 6.

Saskatoon
1638 weekly seats, up from 714.
21 weekly flights, up from 6.

With the latest update, WestJet will have, on average, 62 daily departures from YEG in winter 2015-16. That is only one less than YVR.
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So YVR get a base of operations from Westjet.
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Thanks a lot TheGreatestX, great work as always.
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I think EIA are going to have to upgrade some part of the terminal to accommodate all these turboprops.
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Iceland Air FI693/ICE693 Aurora Borealis is about to land. Anyone seen this paint job yet?

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I think EIA are going to have to upgrade some part of the terminal to accommodate all these turboprops.
Apparently at everyone's cost. Less jets more props and Westjet do not have a base or have much for Edmonton staff. They change their business model and the public foot the bill. Imagine if we only had jetways and nothing else - I guess they would use jets or leave. I guess those that fly Encore will be stuck outside walking to planes in -40C. I wonder what this little reno will cost? $300M ? all for what 1.5 % increase in seat capacity and negligible WJ investment in capital build at YEG or establish of Edmonton flight crew base. Not sure there is value there.

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I don't understand your argument. We need to accommodate the turboprops to sustain connectivity with international flights. You may not like Westjet but we need them at this point in time.
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There is now, the 747! Ok, more akin to the rocket... but works very well other than early morning flights.

That said, LRT should get there one day... but still 110-115yrs off i'd say. If you search hard enough, you can find the proposed alignments.
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I don't NOT like Westjet. I have a WJ platinum credit card or what ever its called. I fly WJ often. I don't see WJ as a business to treat special. I see them as a transport company plain and simple. If they had a true aircraft and staff base in Edmonton and improved transborder and international flights I would "care a lot more" and maybe be endeared to them. Otherwise they are not worth a cent more than Air Canada and are a grab and go airline. WJ have HUBS where they DO have bases and which gets lots of international and transborder flights: vancouver, Toronto and Calgary. Edmonton has been (ever so quietly) been pushed to the side by Westjet in this aspect. That they are providing an increase in traffic using small props to a few smaller centres in Western Canada is good news. Its just not great news. Some say that this will bring on new jet flights for Transborder and International. I would like to see that. I am betting it wont happen as WJ will need a bigger base to do that and we have seen nothing like that happening...no announcement, no construction no base for pilots or attendants.
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Gee what a surprise!!! Your constant bashing of WJ on here and SSP is getting beyond nauseating. Odd how AC gets a free pass with you considering they fly far less routes and frequencies. You must work for AC lol.
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Gee what a surprise!!! Your constant bashing of WJ on here and SSP is getting beyond nauseating. Odd how AC gets a free pass with you considering they fly far less routes and frequencies. You must work for AC lol.
No I don't work for AC lol. I also fly with them but not happy about their service to YEG either...but you you would know that if you really followed my posts. I am not in the airline industry at all.
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Gee what a surprise!!! Your constant bashing of WJ on here and SSP is getting beyond nauseating. Odd how AC gets a free pass with you considering they fly far less routes and frequencies. You must work for AC lol.
No I don't work for AC lol. I also fly with them but not happy about their service to YEG either...but you you would know that if you really followed my posts. I am not in the airline industry at all.
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We are looking at trips for the winter and have narrowed it down to Puerto Vallarta and have three choices of airlines/routes. Which would you choose for a family of 4 (kids are 2 and 4). Note all packages are virtually the same price. We are planning on enrolling into the NEXUS program to ease the time in customs as well.

Option 1 - Westjet
YEG-PVR, nonstop, trip time 5 hours 4 min
Leaves at 10:30, arrives at 16:34
Economy, Boeing 738, seat pitch 31-33", width 17"

PVR-YEG, nonstop, trip time 5 hours 15 min
Leaves at 17:30, arrives at 21:45
Economy, Boeing 738, seat pitch 31-33", width 17"


Option 2 United
YEG-IAH-PVR
Leaves at 09:00, arrives 18:55, trip time 8 hours 55 min (1 hour 52 min layover)
Business, both legs are Boeing 738, seat pitch 38", width 21"

PVR-SFO-YEG
Leaves at 15:50, arrives 23:36, trip time 8 hours 46 min (1 hour 59 min layover)
Business, leg 1 is a Boeing 738, seat pitch 38", width 21", leg 2 is a CRJ7 or E-170, seat pitch 36-37", width 20-24"


Option 3 American Airlines
YEG-PHX-PVR
Leaves at 06:20, arrives 17:05, trip time 9 hours 45 min (3 hour 37 min layover)
Business, leg 1 is an A320 Boeing 738, seat pitch 38", width 21", leg 2 is an A319, seat pitch 37", width 21"

PVR-PHX-YEG
Leaves at 17:55, arrives 00:16, trip time 7 hours 21 min (1 hour 35 min layover)
Business, both legs are A320, seat pitch 38", width 21"


Thanks in advance.
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We are looking at trips for the winter and have narrowed it down to Puerto Vallarta and have three choices of airlines/routes. Which would you choose for a family of 4 (kids are 2 and 4). Note all packages are virtually the same price. We are planning on enrolling into the NEXUS program to ease the time in customs as well.

Option 1 - Westjet
YEG-PVR, nonstop, trip time 5 hours 4 min
Leaves at 10:30, arrives at 16:34
Economy, Boeing 738, seat pitch 31-33", width 17"

PVR-YEG, nonstop, trip time 5 hours 15 min
Leaves at 17:30, arrives at 21:45
Economy, Boeing 738, seat pitch 31-33", width 17"


Option 2 United
YEG-IAH-PVR
Leaves at 09:00, arrives 18:55, trip time 8 hours 55 min (1 hour 52 min layover)
Business, both legs are Boeing 738, seat pitch 38", width 21"

PVR-SFO-YEG
Leaves at 15:50, arrives 23:36, trip time 8 hours 46 min (1 hour 59 min layover)
Business, leg 1 is a Boeing 738, seat pitch 38", width 21", leg 2 is a CRJ7 or E-170, seat pitch 36-37", width 20-24"


Option 3 American Airlines
YEG-PHX-PVR
Leaves at 06:20, arrives 17:05, trip time 9 hours 45 min (3 hour 37 min layover)
Business, leg 1 is an A320 Boeing 738, seat pitch 38", width 21", leg 2 is an A319, seat pitch 37", width 21"

PVR-PHX-YEG
Leaves at 17:55, arrives 00:16, trip time 7 hours 21 min (1 hour 35 min layover)
Business, both legs are A320, seat pitch 38", width 21"


Thanks in advance.
Is this a trick question?

Seriously though, I am guessing the question is whether the longer flights/transfers are worth flying in a more comfortable plane/class? For me, not even close. Direct only. You leave at a reasonable time, and arrive for your holiday earlier, get home at a reasonable hour, and less unpleasant time sitting around or standing in line at airports.
I have never travelled with small kids, but my hunch would be that only makes the direct/shorter flights more appealing.
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Not really a trick question, flying with small kids for long periods is tricky as they don't like to be confined to small spaces for 5 minutes let alone 5 hours. Note, I am also 6'5 and don't love being shoehorned into a 31" seat pitch for 5+ hours. Smaller flights lengths are usually easier for small kids to handle as it is broken up into segments.

As for unpleasant time sitting around or standing in lines, the business class lounges and priority service negates those "issues".
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Nexus takes a long time to obtain.

That being said, the WJ flight leaves at a time when the morning 'rush' has already dissipated and getting through is not as big an issue.

The American flight is during the morning 'rush' and with small children will be little fun at all. Additionally, the food in PHX is about the worst of any American airport.

The IAH flight leaves near the end of the 'rush' and in business you get fed pretty well. The food options are also far greater and better in IAH.
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Old 13-08-2015, 08:44 AM   #2441
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I always opt for the non-stop flight.We've taken the WestJet flight three times in the last three years - all on time and very comfortable - no chance of lost luggage. I recommend it especially if prices are more-or-less the same.
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Old 13-08-2015, 08:46 AM   #2442
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Nexus takes a long time to obtain.

That being said, the WJ flight leaves at a time when the morning 'rush' has already dissipated and getting through is not as big an issue.

The American flight is during the morning 'rush' and with small children will be little fun at all. Additionally, the food in PHX is about the worst of any American airport.

The IAH flight leaves near the end of the 'rush' and in business you get fed pretty well. The food options are also far greater and better in IAH.
Flights are in February, NEXUS better be completed by then lol.
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Old 13-08-2015, 08:47 AM   #2443
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Not really a trick question, flying with small kids for long periods is tricky as they don't like to be confined to small spaces for 5 minutes let alone 5 hours. Note, I am also 6'5 and don't love being shoehorned into a 31" seat pitch for 5+ hours. Smaller flights lengths are usually easier for small kids to handle as it is broken up into segments.

As for unpleasant time sitting around or standing in lines, the business class lounges and priority service negates those "issues".
Kids that are 2 & 4 would suggest direct flight only from my experience when my kids where that age.
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Old 13-08-2015, 09:13 AM   #2444
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Speaking from experience, if you can tolerate seat pitch, I take direct. Two small kids and luggages don't combine well with transfer unless you are training for the next Olympic- stressful and exhaustive . Kids that age get agitated by the 4th-5th hour of flight.
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Old 13-08-2015, 10:23 AM   #2445
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We are looking at trips for the winter and have narrowed it down to Puerto Vallarta and have three choices of airlines/routes. Which would you choose for a family of 4 (kids are 2 and 4). Note all packages are virtually the same price. We are planning on enrolling into the NEXUS program to ease the time in customs as well.

Option 1 - Westjet
YEG-PVR, nonstop, trip time 5 hours 4 min
Leaves at 10:30, arrives at 16:34
Economy, Boeing 738, seat pitch 31-33", width 17"

PVR-YEG, nonstop, trip time 5 hours 15 min
Leaves at 17:30, arrives at 21:45
Economy, Boeing 738, seat pitch 31-33", width 17"


Option 2 United
YEG-IAH-PVR
Leaves at 09:00, arrives 18:55, trip time 8 hours 55 min (1 hour 52 min layover)
Business, both legs are Boeing 738, seat pitch 38", width 21"

PVR-SFO-YEG
Leaves at 15:50, arrives 23:36, trip time 8 hours 46 min (1 hour 59 min layover)
Business, leg 1 is a Boeing 738, seat pitch 38", width 21", leg 2 is a CRJ7 or E-170, seat pitch 36-37", width 20-24"


Option 3 American Airlines
YEG-PHX-PVR
Leaves at 06:20, arrives 17:05, trip time 9 hours 45 min (3 hour 37 min layover)
Business, leg 1 is an A320 Boeing 738, seat pitch 38", width 21", leg 2 is an A319, seat pitch 37", width 21"

PVR-PHX-YEG
Leaves at 17:55, arrives 00:16, trip time 7 hours 21 min (1 hour 35 min layover)
Business, both legs are A320, seat pitch 38", width 21"


Thanks in advance.
We've traveled with 2 young kids (aged 1 and 4) to Vancouver, Toronto, Turkey, Costa Rica, Mexico, London, Pakistan and Dubai. So yeah, all manner of short, medium, and long haul flights.

Wife is adamant on taking the shortest possible flights even if on economy. One time she flew business to Dubai and that was worth it but on anything less than 10 hours, she wants the shortest flight possible. We flew to PVR and took Air Transat direct.

I would avoid US customs (we all have nexus) at any cost. Better to fly direct with CBSA agents only who are much more family friendly versus US agents.
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Old 13-08-2015, 10:32 AM   #2446
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Also United Business (lowest class) doesn't offer lounge access. So if you are flying United, ensure the class you select has lounge access.
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Old 13-08-2015, 02:09 PM   #2447
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Nexus takes a long time to obtain.

That being said, the WJ flight leaves at a time when the morning 'rush' has already dissipated and getting through is not as big an issue.

The American flight is during the morning 'rush' and with small children will be little fun at all. Additionally, the food in PHX is about the worst of any American airport.

The IAH flight leaves near the end of the 'rush' and in business you get fed pretty well. The food options are also far greater and better in IAH.
Flights are in February, NEXUS better be completed by then lol.
6 months is not out of the the question but hopefully it doesn't take that long. I waited 6 months to get mine.
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Old 27-08-2015, 02:57 PM   #2448
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Flying to Chicago non-stop in November with the significant other. Looking forward to the trip, first time in the windy city.
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Old 28-08-2015, 01:43 AM   #2450
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Flying to Chicago non-stop in November with the significant other. Looking forward to the trip, first time in the windy city.
Best town in the US to visit, IMO.
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