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Old 26-06-2014, 11:08 AM   #1801
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Pilots are not route planners, but they are realists. Show me the schedule loaded in the system and I'll buy it, or even better show me the plane sitting at the gate for boarding and I'll buy it then. But just because a pilot said it doesn't mean anything. Everyday I hear new rumors that have never come to pass so keep that in mind.
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Old 26-06-2014, 11:12 AM   #1802
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Yeah, I'm sort of in that Missouri "show me" state too.

But, gotta say - a whole lot of smoke being blown from somewhere ...
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Old 26-06-2014, 11:58 AM   #1803
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I kept hearing "Frankfurt likely coming soon" for about 6 years but that never materialized.
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Old 26-06-2014, 12:52 PM   #1804
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I had a chance to speak with someone high up at EIA and they said discussions for both AMS and FRA are going on. I was surprised to hear FRA since LH pulled out of YYC but they said LH has shown interest and discussions have heated up quite a bit for AMS/FRA.

I asked the person what's their gut feel of landing another European route and reply was there is a very good chance of one happening this winter. They also mentioned it's easier to maintain AMS or FRA year around due to lower landing fees compared to LHR.
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Old 26-06-2014, 02:19 PM   #1805
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AllegiantAir still plans on launch Canada flights, but postponed till 2015 per ACI-NA meetings this week here in Edmonton.
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Old 29-06-2014, 07:48 PM   #1806
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This guy has the experience , so it might be interesting to see what he does . He claims to be starting with three 737's .. Sounds very similar to west jet starting up.

http://business.financialpost.com/20...del-to-canada/

With the majors focused on other areas ie. Overseas , regional , it might be the opportunity to succeed if he nails the niche.
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Old 29-06-2014, 08:17 PM   #1807
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Yeah well, all I can say is those 3 737s probably say Enerjet on them currently. No thanks to ultra low cost, fly Ryanair and tell me how much you like it.
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Old 29-06-2014, 08:43 PM   #1808
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I didn't mind Ryanair, super cheap...
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Old 29-06-2014, 08:56 PM   #1809
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Yeah well, all I can say is those 3 737s probably say Enerjet on them currently. No thanks to ultra low cost, fly Ryanair and tell me how much you like it.
Not everyone can afford what you, me and others can, so they will bare that just like not everyone can afford mansions, so they go for something cheap and dignified.
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Old 29-06-2014, 09:02 PM   #1810
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Yeah well, all I can say is those 3 737s probably say Enerjet on them currently. No thanks to ultra low cost, fly Ryanair and tell me how much you like it.
While I am pretty sure that Enerjet has a long term charter with Husky for these planes , If he is going to use this fleet , then he already has a fully equipped and staffed fleet ready to go. Could be interesting...
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Old 29-06-2014, 10:29 PM   #1811
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Yeah well, all I can say is those 3 737s probably say Enerjet on them currently. No thanks to ultra low cost, fly Ryanair and tell me how much you like it.
Not everyone can afford what you, me and others can, so they will bare that just like not everyone can afford mansions, so they go for something cheap and dignified.
Did you really just suggest that ryanAir is dignified?

It has to be exactly the opposite of that...
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Old 29-06-2014, 10:56 PM   #1812
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Please don't be ignorant to those with inability of affordibility with pricepoint. I fly first class regardless where i go but would never admonish people for flyingg at low pricepoint. Not directing at you personally, enough with the forking pretentiousness. For some folks RayanAir is dignified so respect that!
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Old 29-06-2014, 11:07 PM   #1813
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Please don't be ignorant to those with inability of affordibility with pricepoint. I fly first class regardless where i go but would never admonish people for flyingg at low pricepoint. Not directing at you personally, enough with the forking pretentiousness. For some folks RayanAir is dignified so respect that!
That's it you tell him!
I am sure the 81 million passengers who flew with them last year would not have flown them if they did not want to.

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Old 30-06-2014, 12:03 AM   #1814
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The market needs more choices among airlines, and YEG needs more airlines to pay attention to the market.

Wait and see if I ever fly them or not, but it's definitely good news. Even if I don't fly with them, they'll make Westjet and Air Vanzdone have to earn their keep.
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Old 30-06-2014, 10:39 AM   #1815
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With the USA pretty well covered, and with Icelandair now serving EIA, I'm hoping someone steps up and gives us direct service to Asia. My preference would be Singapore Airlines, but I doubt that will happen.
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Old 30-06-2014, 10:48 AM   #1816
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Direct service to Asia would be awesome!
But which city?
Tokyo?
Hong Kong?
Shanghai?
Singapore?
Delhi?
Mumbai?
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Old 30-06-2014, 10:52 AM   #1817
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Direct service to Asia would be awesome!
But which city?
Singapore?
Delhi?
Mumbai?
There isn't any non-stop service from anywhere in Canada to those places, so I don't think Edmonton will be the first to get those routes.

My money would be on Tokyo, Seoul or Taipei.
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Old 30-06-2014, 11:25 AM   #1818
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HK or Shanghai please.
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Old 30-06-2014, 12:09 PM   #1819
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Any major city with good connection-even Guang Zhou. Target whatever is most manageable and tangible for us. We have now realize going through the back door is just as affective (aka Icelandair). Anything beyond that such as Central/South America would just give Calgary, Vanvouver and *** Canada a heart attack.
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Old 30-06-2014, 12:34 PM   #1820
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Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Tianjin, Chongqing, Chengdu, Harbin are all worthy alternatives for Edmonton to connect to.
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Old 30-06-2014, 01:25 PM   #1821
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Harbin would be particularly apropos, as it is one of Edmonton's twin cities.
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Old 30-06-2014, 01:27 PM   #1822
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Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Tianjin, Chongqing, Chengdu, Harbin are all worthy alternatives for Edmonton to connect to.
All of those cities, except Guangzhou, would offer very limited connections.
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Old 30-06-2014, 02:17 PM   #1823
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Chongqing's new airport under construction:

Source: http://pic.feeyo.com/posts/605/6050408.html#6050409

Those cities might not have as many connections as the usual ones which is why they would love to have a connection to Edmonton. They are also well connected to other cities within China. The Chongqing airport serves almost 30 million people.
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Old 30-06-2014, 02:26 PM   #1824
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In 2004, Chongqing Jiangbei Airport became one of the largest in Western China due to an expansion to Terminal 2 which opened and was originally expected to be able to handle as many as 10 million passengers by 2010. However, the passenger traffic grew at such a fast pace that by 2007, the airport had already served more than 10 million passengers.

The phase three construction, which included a second runway and another expansion of Terminal 2, started in 2007. Major construction included adding a second runway of 3,200 meters(which was later lengthened to 3,600 meters) to the east of the existing runway, building a parallel taxiway in between the two runways and setting up a visual aid lighting support system. It also included adding a second terminal building (T2A) with an area of 60,000 sq.m., 41 apron aircraft parking stands, and a freight station and support facilities occupying an area of 20,000 sq.m. It cost CNY3.3 billion(USD538 million).[7] The T2 Terminal expansion project was finished in 2010. In 22 December 2010, the second runway came into regular use and Chongqing became the 4th city in mainland China that had 2 runways operating at the same time, one exclusively for take-off and the other for landing.

The next phase expansion includes the addition of the third runway and a new terminal, Terminal 3A, which is going to be 480,000 square meters,[8] twice the size of the existing terminals (T1 and T2A-B) combined, costing CNY26.0 billion (USD4.1 billion). The new terminal is expected to be completed by 2015 after which the airport will have 700,000 square meters of terminal space, ranking Chongqing Jiangbei among the world's 15 largest airports with an annual passenger capacity of 60 million and an annual cargo capacity of 2 million tons. Half of the new terminal is currently planned for international flights to cities in South East Asia, East Asia, Middle East, Western Africa, Western Europe and North America."
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Old 30-06-2014, 02:33 PM   #1825
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International destinations from Chongqing airport:
Taipei, Kaohsing, Bankok, Phunket, Singapore, Colombo, Sydney, Malé, Seoul, Tokyo.
No direct flights to North America
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Old 30-06-2014, 02:42 PM   #1826
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That'd be cool; they could be our gateway to Asia, and we could be their gateway to North America
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Old 30-06-2014, 03:34 PM   #1827
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Like Iceland air , We should work with those who want a connection with us. That is how bonds get built.
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Old 30-06-2014, 04:33 PM   #1828
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The way I would predict possible service is first to look at which airline would serve Edmonton, and then to consider which hub would be their priority based on the hub's "power" (number of spokes), proximity to Edmonton (for transfers), and actual existing traffic between the two centres themselves.

(Then someone like chupa or Tom Hinderks comes along and tells me it's impossible due to regulations (i.e., politics.))

If Chongqing, it would have to be China Southern Airlines, but if it were China Southern, I suspect they would prefer their Beijing hub for proximity, hub power, and actual traffic between Edmonton and Beijing.

That's not even to say it passes the first test, of: would China Southern be interested in Edmonton?

Geographically, the hub that is most proximal is Narita/Tokyo (JAL and ANA, and to which Calgary has service), and the hub that might arguably be more powerful, but second most proximal is Incheon/Seoul (Asiana and KAL.) If you are the type that likes oversimplification, you could think of Narita and Incheon as the Heathrow and Schipohl of Asia, with (Beijing being Frankfurt.)

The neat trick with Icelandair is that they are close enough to actually fly narrowbody aircraft, which generally are much cheaper to operate, while all their competitors are forced to consider only widebodies.

The only city in Asia that could pull off the narrowbody trick is Petropavlovsk Kamchatskyi, Russia, but they don't seem to have an airline like Icelandair showing the will or ability to, say, link North America to Tokyo, Beijing, etc.

Just food for thought.

I'll take whoever wants to serve our market that regulations will allow. (Although, yes, we do have enough of a market to fill a year-round East Asia flight.)
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Old 30-06-2014, 09:21 PM   #1829
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Please don't be ignorant to those with inability of affordibility with pricepoint. I fly first class regardless where i go but would never admonish people for flyingg at low pricepoint. Not directing at you personally, enough with the forking pretentiousness. For some folks RayanAir is dignified so respect that!
That's it you tell him!
I am sure the 81 million passengers who flew with them last year would not have flown them if they did not want to.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...travelers.html
Its not a matter of being pretentious. I simply object to a company that treats its customers so badly. RyanAir's business model is built on an ancillary revenue - selling everything that used to be included. Thus, the 'poorer' traveler is often forced to pay more out of pocket at the airport and on the plane. They are tricked and taken advantage of. RyanAir also has a notorious reputation for bullying airport authorities to give them favorable or often free landing rights. The other airlines play fairly, but ryanair seems to think there is a set of rules that doesn't apply to them. Lastly, we also have to mention their labour practices. The pay is so low for their staff that many are on state benefits. This is not a contributor to the economy, it instead promotes a race to the bottom.
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Old 30-06-2014, 10:08 PM   #1830
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That is a fair explananation and as my comments stated "not directing at you personally..." However, i was targeting a comment 4 posts above your's. That one was just foul especially when i threw out innuendos about people's affordable rangre . It was like his silverspoon defied gravity and found its way right out the upper end. You didn't explain your point of view , so it added to the fire.
.. All is good though as you have never demonstrated such narrow path since i have partaken onto this forum.
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Old 18-07-2014, 06:47 PM   #1831
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From tuffyy at SSP:
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Should be a route announcement coming up shortly for YEG again (talks wrapped up this week).

Is it big? Think of AC replacement outside of BA to Europe (I think thats clear).

No, its not Asia, so don't speculate about it.
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Old 18-07-2014, 06:57 PM   #1832
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FRA or AMS is my guess.
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Old 18-07-2014, 07:41 PM   #1833
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Virgin, KLM, or Lufthansa to me would be the only true "AC replacements to Europe outside BA."

Westjet???

Virgin would be the biggest coup for YEG, as it would get the largest number of drivers from 'other Alberta cities', so that's whom I'm hoping.
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Old 18-07-2014, 07:52 PM   #1834
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In case tuffyy is reading this (or if anyone else is in the know...), would this new service be commencing before the end of the year? Looking into flight options for the UK/Europe for the festive season, and although Icelandair is a definate option, would be useful to compare with any other options if and when they become available.
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In case tuffyy is reading this (or if anyone else is in the know...), would this new service be commencing before the end of the year? Looking into flight options for the UK/Europe for the festive season, and although Icelandair is a definate option, would be useful to compare with any other options if and when they become available.
My guess would be a spring 2015 start if it is announced now. Just a guess though.
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Old 19-07-2014, 10:55 AM   #1836
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My bet is KLM share with Calgary or a codeshare.
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Old 19-07-2014, 11:01 AM   #1837
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I sure hope its not shared, those are dated strategies by airlines and suck for the business traveler.
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Old 19-07-2014, 03:17 PM   #1838
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My bet is KLM share with Calgary or a codeshare.
If a shared flight - and a forced stop in YYC either to or from AMS - that is not much of a gain. I would rather stop in KEF both ways than in YYC on either the return or arrival.
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Old 19-07-2014, 03:20 PM   #1839
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My bet is KLM share with Calgary or a codeshare.
I agree and think it is KLM and shared.

Would they up gauge to a 747 instead of the current A330 if indeed it is shared?
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^ All depends if they could make more money using the 747 elsewhere or not.

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I sure hope its not shared, those are dated strategies by airlines and suck for the business traveler.
Agreed. If shared in any sense I would hope it's the YEG - M/W/F, YYC - S/T/T/S sense.

Anything is welcomed of course, but just in case beggars get to choose is all.
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Old 19-07-2014, 09:15 PM   #1841
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Is KLM daily now to YYC?? I would think if so, the only reason they would come here and share the flight is to recapture lost traffic that is now taking Icelandair from YEG. It won't work if flights are via YYC.
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Old 19-07-2014, 09:32 PM   #1842
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I would be ok with a shared flight if we depart last for Europe and arrive first on the return. two net positives could derive from this:
1. This will conditioned and programed the mindset of our southern counterpart to come up here for flights.
2. It gives us a great opportunity to advertise to them of our other offerings.

The other option is I hope they are challenger to *** Canada and its codeshared partners; and Edmonton is their staging ground leading to a future hub concept.
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and Edmonton is their staging ground leading to a future hub concept.
Star Alliance attempted a majority foreign air carrier hub at Heathrow. It could happen at YEG (on a YEG scale, obviously.) A hub just means opportunity for line transfers through coordinated schedules and seamless/shared baggage handling and ticketing.

Arguably tricky without a domestic carrier, but again at Heathrow, domestic is a miniscule 7% of passengers, thus by logical equivalence of deprecating the significance of YEG's potential domestic hub traffic, you could call it a hub if they just let YEG handle some of the SEA-AMS overflow. Even if that only filled 5% of the YEG-AMS seats, that could easily be the difference between make or break.

Or you can define 'hub' in the narrow single-airline sense and ignore the whole discussion.

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Old 20-07-2014, 09:12 AM   #1845
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Stupid question: If it is KLM to AMS, would that be the reason for their YYC ads in WEM? To gauge local interest?
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Very possibly.

Important "if" in there though.
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Preliminary WestJet Winter 2014-15 changes

Cabo San Lucas increase from 1 to 2 weekly
Cancun increase from 3 to 5 weekly
Las Vegas remains double daily
Los Angeles remains daily
Maui remains at 3 weekly
Mazatlan remains at 1 weekly
Orlando remains at 1 weekly
Palm Springs increase from 7 to 8 weekly
Phoenix remains at 10 weekly
Puerto Vallarta increase from 3 to 5 weekly

In case you're interested, Calgary to Miami is cancelled.
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Preliminary WestJet Winter 2014-15 changes

Cabo San Lucas increase from 1 to 2 weekly
Cancun increase from 3 to 5 weekly
Las Vegas remains double daily
Los Angeles remains daily
Maui remains at 3 weekly
Mazatlan remains at 1 weekly
Orlando remains at 1 weekly
Palm Springs increase from 7 to 8 weekly
Phoenix remains at 10 weekly
Puerto Vallarta increase from 3 to 5 weekly

In case you're interested, Calgary to Miami is cancelled.
Must mean American is ramping up. Did YYC get any new routes?
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Old 21-07-2014, 12:47 AM   #1849
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One weekly to Loreto, Mexico
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WestJet non-stop flights to Halifax will be year-round from February 16. Previously operated June-August only.
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Old 21-07-2014, 01:06 PM   #1851
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WestJet non-stop flights to Halifax will be year-round from February 16. Previously operated June-August only.
Are those daily?
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I guess if I took the time to read the blog I would not be asking such questions. Here it is:

http://blog.westjet.com/westjet-wint...ule-2014-2015/
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That is great news, I would like to see Hamilton year round too as it is a great place to connect when travelling to the East.
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Old 21-07-2014, 02:44 PM   #1855
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That is great news, I would like to see Hamilton year round too as it is a great place to connect when travelling to the East.
I've flown Calgary-Hamilton, the plane was three quarters empty, so I'm not sure how they are making it economic. Its sorta fun, because you hop off the 737 outside (no skybridge). I agree its great place to fly to, quick trip from there to Buffalo and decent priced flights.
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Interesting, I have flown Edmonton-Hamilton-Moncton many times (in-laws live in New Brunswick) and it has always been full.
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^It was funny, I forgot to turn off my phone, and half way through the journey it buzzed, and was asking me if I wanted to pay for a US roaming package (must have picked up a tower from 40,000 feet as crossing between Detroit and Chicago). I flew on weekend, maybe busier at other times.
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Summary of Changes to WestJet Winter 2014-15 Schedule

Gains
Cancun, increase from 3 to 5 weekly flights
Comox, increase from 6 to 7 weekly flights
Fort McMurray, increase from 19 to 26 weekly flights, effective Feb 15
Halifax, new winter service (5 weekly flights), effective Feb 15
Kamloops, new daily service, effective Feb 15
Puerto Vallarta, increase from 3 to 4 weekly (temporary increase to 5 from Nov-Jan)
Regina, increase from 20 to 21 weekly flights, effective Feb 15

Losses
Calgary, decrease from 63 to 62 weekly flights
Grande Prairie, decrease from 21 to 14 weekly flights
Vancouver, decrease from 55 to 54 weekly flights
Winnipeg, decrease from 14 to 13 weekly flights

Temporary Gains
Cabo San Lucas, increase from 1 to 2 weekly flights (Nov-Jan only, in Feb reverts to 1/week)
Palm Springs, increase from 7 to 8 weekly flights (Nov-Jan only, in Feb reverts to 7/week)

Totals
Net gain of 14 new flights/week*
Net gain of 1519 seats/week*


*excludes flights under “Temporary Gains”

All totals are versus last winter.

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Thanks for the summary, great to see the changes from last year. Glad to see Kamloops in there, I assume that is on Encore.
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If only Westjet would have given us Fort Lauderdale (like they gave Winnipeg) or Miami. Now that would have been sweet.
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WestJet non-stop flights to Halifax will be year-round from February 16. Previously operated June-August only.
That's actually huge news. Great to hear.
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Old 22-07-2014, 05:23 AM   #1862
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Great news with Halifax. All the trades people will be happy with this for the very east coast. They been desiring this for quite a long time as the layover in Toronto takes up 1/2 of their day.

Re:Moa...

Edmonton/Hamilton are busy due to the trades. They want Edmonton not Calgary. This cancellation is great for us as it could encourage Calgarians to come up and use this flight from here.

overall, it's great to see Westjet focusing on true business advantages than the hub model in this instance.
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Interesting, I have flown Edmonton-Hamilton-Moncton many times (in-laws live in New Brunswick) and it has always been full.
Absolutely correct. Came back from Moncton last night - every seat taken. I'm a regular customer on that route (summer only, of course) and would love to see it go year-round, even if it were only 1 or 2 a week.
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Edmonton/Hamilton are busy due to the trades. They want Edmonton not Calgary. This cancellation is great for us as it could encourage Calgarians to come up and use this flight from here.
What cancellation are you referring to?

I think next year we may see more routes go all year. Halifax is a good start!
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Old 22-07-2014, 05:41 PM   #1865
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Cal/ Hamilton flight.
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I wonder if some of these passengers go onto Fort McMurray, about a 30-minute flight saving in Edmonton.
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Cal/ Hamilton flight.
I guess Hamilton Airport webpage not up to date? Says YEG is seasonal and YYC is year round? Now I am confused ctz-ed...what is correct?

http://flyhamilton.ca/passenger/flig...ons-route-map/
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Hamilton will remain seasonal for this season, Halifax is going to 5 weekly over the winter.

Sounds like a bit of confusion.
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Calgary-Hamilton is not cancelled. Don't know what he's talking about.
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l^
correct!

My apology for mixing up thoughts. It's Cal/Miami that is or will be cancelled.
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I wonder if some of these passengers go onto Fort McMurray, about a 30-minute flight saving in Edmonton.
They sure do. 30 min don't seem a lot but factor in other travel and transfer etc., it can become less stressful.
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Effective September 21, United will relaunch second daily Houston flight, albeit on United Express.
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Old 23-07-2014, 06:46 AM   #1873
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This is a normal adjustment for IAH. The express flight is new but was expected. Mainline returns in October. I would mind seeing them increase frequency and use the 170's all the time.
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This is a normal adjustment for IAH. The express flight is new but was expected. Mainline returns in October. I would mind seeing them increase frequency and use the 170's all the time.
Late evening flight please to allow for connections in the am to points far South
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Old 25-07-2014, 08:51 PM   #1875
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Low-cost U.S. airline giant Southwest Airlines Co., says Canada is on a list of “attractive” destinations it is considering for expansion – a development that would shake up Canada-U.S. air travel.
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Old 28-07-2014, 06:01 PM   #1876
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Here's some information. It is based on a random day in July and doesn't include charter flights.

Edmonton International Airport - Top Airlines and Routes July 2014


Top 5 Airlines by Daily Departures
1. Air Canada/Air Canada Express (57) [tie]
1. WestJet/WestJet Encore (57) [tie]
3. United/United Express (9)
4. Central Mountain Air (6)
5. Alaska Airlines (3)

Although WestJet and Air Canada have the same amount of daily departures, WestJet has way more mainline flights.



Top 10 Airlines by Daily Seats
1. WestJet/WestJet Encore (7154)
2. Air Canada/Air Canada Express (4979)
3. United/United Express (759)
4. American Airlines/US Airways (278 )
5. Alaska Airlines (228 )
6. Canadian North (224)
7. Delta/Delta Connection (202)
8. Icelandair (183)
9. Central Mountain Air (172)
10. Air North (156)



Top 5 Airlines by Destinations Served
1. WestJet/WestJet Encore (19)
2. Air Canada/Air Canada Express (12)
3. United/United Express (5)
4. Central Mountain Air (4)
5. American Airlines/US Airways (2) [tie]
5. Northwestern Air (2) [tie]

Top 10 Destinations by Daily Frequency
1. Calgary (26)
2. Toronto (19)
3. Vancouver (17)
4. Fort McMurray (9)
5. Grande Prairie (8 )
6. Winnipeg (6)
7. Yellowknife (5)
8. Kelowna (4) [tie]
8. Regina (4) [tie]
8. Saskatoon (4) [tie]

Top 15 Destinations by Daily Seats
1. Toronto (2844)
2. Vancouver (1999)
3. Calgary (1896)
4. Fort McMurray (739)
5. Winnipeg (558 )
6. Kelowna (544)
7. Yellowknife (525)
8. Grande Prairie (484)
9. Victoria (391)
10. Montreal (362)
11. Ottawa (330)
12. Las Vegas (310)
13. Abbotsford (272)
14. Regina (256) [tie]
14. Saskatoon (256) [tie]

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It's funny how lopsided it appears - seemingly dominated by Westjet and Air Canada in every category - and yet how vastly more balanced it actually is compared with 10 years ago.
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Old 28-07-2014, 09:48 PM   #1878
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^^ What a great analysis - thanks for putting this together.

Perhaps I shouldn't be, but I'm surprised by the large number of daily seats and flights to Toronto.

If it's not too much work, would you be willing to consider doing one of these for a random day during the winter as well?
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Yup, I plan on it.
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Here's some information. It is based on a random day in July and doesn't include charter flights.

Edmonton International Airport - Top Airlines and Routes July 2014


Top 5 Airlines by Daily Departures
1. Air Canada/Air Canada Express (57) [tie]
1. WestJet/WestJet Encore (57) [tie]
3. United/United Express (9)
4. Central Mountain Air (6)
5. Alaska Airlines (3)

Although WestJet and Air Canada have the same amount of daily departures, WestJet has way more mainline flights.



Top 10 Airlines by Daily Seats
1. WestJet/WestJet Encore (7154)
2. Air Canada/Air Canada Express (4979)
3. United/United Express (759)
4. American Airlines/US Airways (278 )
5. Alaska Airlines (228 )
6. Canadian North (224)
7. Delta/Delta Connection (202)
8. Icelandair (183)
9. Central Mountain Air (172)
10. Air North (156)



Top 5 Airlines by Destinations Served
1. WestJet/WestJet Encore (19)
2. Air Canada/Air Canada Express (12)
3. United/United Express (5)
4. Central Mountain Air (4)
5. American Airlines/US Airways (2) [tie]
5. Northwestern Air (2) [tie]

Top 10 Destinations by Daily Frequency
1. Calgary (26)
2. Toronto (19)
3. Vancouver (17)
4. Fort McMurray (9)
5. Grande Prairie (8 )
6. Winnipeg (6)
7. Yellowknife (5)
8. Kelowna (4) [tie]
8. Regina (4) [tie]
8. Saskatoon (4) [tie]

Top 15 Destinations by Daily Seats
1. Toronto (2844)
2. Vancouver (1999)
3. Calgary (1896)
4. Fort McMurray (739)
5. Winnipeg (558 )
6. Kelowna (544)
7. Yellowknife (525)
8. Grande Prairie (484)
9. Victoria (391)
10. Montreal (362)
11. Ottawa (330)
12. Las Vegas (310)
13. Abbotsford (272)
14. Regina (256) [tie]
14. Saskatoon (256) [tie]

Very good work.
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Its interesting looking at the stats. Westjet shows Edmonton more love than Air Canada does. I guess WJ does have an Alberta HQ ("evil" Calgary), not a Quebec one, perhaps that makes it more focussed on the west?
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WestJet beats forecast as Q2 profit surges 16 per cent to $51.8 million
BY ROSS MAROWITS, THE CANADIAN PRESS JULY 29, 2014

WestJet beats forecast as Q2 profit surges 16 per cent to $51.8 million

WestJet Airlines Ltd. beat expectations as the airline's profits surged nearly 16 per cent to $51.8 million in the second quarter.

The Calgary-based airline said Tuesday it earned 40 cents per diluted share for the three months ended June 30. That compared with a profit of $44.7 million or 34 cents per share a year ago.

Revenue increased 10.3 per cent to $930.3 million from $843.7 million in the second quarter of 2013.
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The bigger planes can fly further than WestJet's current fleet of Boeing 737s and allow it to compete with Air Canada (TSX:AC.B) on more routes.

The airline says it expects to expand its operation into overseas markets starting in the summer of 2016.
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Adding four 767-300ERW aircraft to the WestJet fleet
Richard Bartrem July 29, 2014

What a great day for WestJetters and our guests! Today, we announced that we will be acquiring four Boeing 767-300ERW in 2015. To break down the numbers, the 767 is the aircraft type, 300 is the series number – the medium size, if you will, of the 200, 300 and 400 series aircraft. The ER is extended range, meaning it has increased fuel and therefore range capabilities and finally, the W indicates that these aircraft are outfitted with winglets which improve the fuel efficiency of the aircraft.

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In due course, we will announce where we’ll deploy these aircraft for summer 2016. With a comfortable, wide-body cabin with range approaching 11,000 kilometres we have some great choices to make!

Inside the cabin, we anticipate having 262 seats with a regular cabin and a version of our Plus seating also available. We plan on outfitting our 767 aircraft with our new inflight entertainment system so that our guests will have something to pass the time as they fly through our network.
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^very nice, but taking it very "slow" - just 4. With airlines converting to 787's though, there should be some nice deals for them to get more.
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^ That's a good start, AC has been in the game forever and have 17 of these aircraft. Westjet started out "slow" as well, now they have 120 aircraft (including Encore) and unlike AC, actually turn a profit every quarter. Slow seems to be working for them....

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^do they have to do ETOPs for each new 767 after this, or just this first batch? If just the first, that would also be a reason to go slow. I note Air Canada seem to be doing ETOP's / domestic flights with their 787's as well.
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Saw this on Flight Global earlier. Made me wonder if Westjet will become the mysterious "AC replacement to LHR."

I would welcome any airline not associated with Calgary's Derek Vanstone, but 2016 is a long time to wait.
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WestJet's employee cost structure and fleet commonality will allow them to save costs and offset the gas guzzling (lol only to the 787) 767's fuel costs. I love the 767 and hope WS uses them for some years to come. I agree, prices on these aircraft will be good for years to come except for those 767's being sold by AC lol.
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I agree, prices on these aircraft will be good for years to come except for those 767's being sold by AC lol.
AC will fly those to death on Rouge holiday routes before they sell them.
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