Eskimos 2011 season thread - Page 2

McBoo · 12-12-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveB

... Time to build for the future.....

Ghod, please no!

Okay, I'm over it - but yes, this IS big and Tillman better have someone other than Kerry Joseph or Steven Jyles in mind to replace.

That, or we change the team name to Colts ...

Sonic Death Monkey · 12-12-2011, 11:21 AM

Looks like the Ricky Ray trade is going ahead:
http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=382540

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Ricky Ray is about to become a Toronto Argonaut.

The Argonauts and Edmonton Eskimos have a agreed to a deal that will see the 32-year-old quarterback moving East. The Eskimos have called a media conference today at 4pm et/1pm pt to announce the deal.

Toronto's side of the trade is believed to include quarterback Steven Jyles, kicker Grant Shaw and a first-round draft pick going to the Eskimos.

SteveB · 12-12-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by McBoo

Ghod, please no!

Okay, I'm over it - but yes, this IS big and Tillman better have someone other than Kerry Joseph or Steven Jyles in mind to replace.

That, or we change the team name to Colts ...

Couldn't agree more re your Jyles comment, I don't see him as a replacement; maybe a good back up?

Sonic Death Monkey · 12-12-2011, 12:37 PM

Rumor also has it that the Esks may try to get Henry Burris, who wants out of Calgary.

lobbdogg · 12-12-2011, 01:06 PM

I like Ricky Ray and all, but over the last few years, I've thought he has plateau'd as a QB, I'm ok with going for a fresh look at that position.

Doug · 12-12-2011, 01:41 PM

I would still rate Ray as one of the top 3 QB's in the league. They better be getting someone other than Jyles to fill the QB position. Don't like this trade at all unless there is a signing or follow-up trade.

Edmontonfan · 12-12-2011, 02:04 PM

live conference on 630 ched right now

MrOilers · 12-12-2011, 02:09 PM

Burris is NOT the guy we want to replace Ray.

He has won one Grey Cup in 2008, but he has been getting worse ever since. He was absolute garbage this year, and I think his career is almost done.

jagators63 · 12-12-2011, 07:04 PM

Ricky Ray need to let go and get a better QB with strong arm , quick release while gets good reading. I believe it is time to get a good QB who can pass 10- 20 yards every time.

Cured · 12-12-2011, 11:30 PM

That was kind of "out of the blue". Not like we have any young QBs of note in development. I really figured Ray would be here until the end of his career.

With the 100th Grey Cup in Toronto next year, i guess Brailey and the Argos are looking to make some kind of impact in the GTA.

Replacement · 14-12-2011, 07:16 PM

Not crying over this.

Ray hasn't been much in recent yrs. This year the team was 6th in offense and first downs despite having some of the best weapons in the league for Ray to work with.
Even with a 100K cut in pay Rays contract still represented negative value in a capped league.

Not sure why we ever extended the contract really but I suspect to get some stock in trade. Theres sources saying a deal with Hamilton fell through last year as well but only because the Ray camp wanted to not be moved in exchange for an agreed reduction in salary.
Ray was making 512K/yr as recently as the 2010 season. Thats a huge amount in a smallcap league.

He'll have trouble finding recievers in Toronto. Unless he pays some to play there..

Doug · 14-12-2011, 08:50 PM

Ray threw for about 25 touchdowns and had 11 interceptions. Other than the QB in Montreal how many other QB's had better stats? He is going to be very hard, if not impossible, to replace. This was not a move that made the team better. This is about a GM with a huge ego that is putting his own stamp on this team. Time will tell if this was a smart move, I believe it wasn't.

Replacement · 14-12-2011, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug

Ray threw for about 25 touchdowns and had 11 interceptions. Other than the QB in Montreal how many other QB's had better stats? He is going to be very hard, if not impossible, to replace. This was not a move that made the team better. This is about a GM with a huge ego that is putting his own stamp on this team. Time will tell if this was a smart move, I believe it wasn't.

How many 50/50 balls do you think Stamps and Bowman came up with on their own last season?
Any QB is fortunate to have recievers that fight back to the ball and maintain positioning like that.

The 25 TD tosses on their own is really not that impressive. If anything Ray has had difficulty converting in redzone. 6th in production is no illusion. A team with this many weapons should get more.

lobbdogg · 15-12-2011, 07:51 AM

Not to mention, that Ray was getting very predictable. The defense knew that if they could collapse on the pocket, then there would be a good chance they'd come up with a sack. If no play is available from the pocket, he struggles to make most other plays.

Some of this did have to do with the O line at times, but it wasn't always their fault either. Is Jyles the right man for the job? Who knows, but I know I spent many games yelling at the TV because Ray got sacked...again

MrOilers · 15-12-2011, 08:15 AM

Ray is the type of quarterback who would rather take the sack than throw a bad interception. Sacks suck, but turning over the ball is worse.

Supposing that Ray wasn't the best fit for the team, who is going to be our quarterback next year?

Joseph is too old and he's no good. Jyles is garbage. Unless some unknown steps up and has a stellar season (highly unlikely), the Eskimos are going to do worse than Saskatchewan next year.

Doug · 15-12-2011, 10:02 AM

I would much rather have a QB that can throw the ball then one with nervous feet who takes off like a scared rabbit. Jyles is not the answer. Ray is still in the top 15 percent of QB's in the league.

Sonic Death Monkey · 02-01-2012, 04:48 PM

Stamps QB Henry Burris going to the Ti-Cats:
http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=384050

Hilman · 02-01-2012, 05:43 PM

Now what, Jyles is definitely not the answer......

Doug · 02-01-2012, 08:56 PM

They just extended Joseph's contract so he may be the guy. Maybe Hamilton will trade Glen to the Eskimos. Both of those options are not a step up from Ray and they cannot go with Jyles.

Sonic Death Monkey · 02-01-2012, 09:17 PM

^ Glenn is going to the Stamps in the Burris deal

McBoo · 07-01-2012, 11:42 AM

Stubler, gone

Ray, gone

Eskies QB is Stephen Jyles

The fanatics are right. 2012 IS the end of the world ...

Sonic Death Monkey · 03-02-2012, 09:29 PM

Esks sign former 1st overall draft pick

http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=386856

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EDMONTON -- It didn't take Simeon Rottier long to land another job.

Rottier signed with the Edmonton Eskimos on Friday, just two days after being released by the Hamilton Tiger-Cats.

"Being able to return to Alberta and play for the Eskimos in front of their incredible fans fulfills a lifelong dream of mine," Rottier said in a statement. "The Eskimos have a very bright future and I'm excited to be part of it.

"I'd also like to thank the entire Hamilton Tiger-Cats organization for their support during my time there."

The six-foot-six, 295-pound Rottier, a native of Westlock, Alta., played his college football at the University of Alberta before being selected first overall by Hamilton in the 2009 CFL Canadian college draft.

MrOilers · 03-02-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by McBoo

Stubler, gone

That is going to hurt. The defense was awesome last year, largely due to Stubler.

Sonic Death Monkey · 12-02-2012, 10:36 AM

Messam to the Dolphins?
http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=387601

Hilman · 12-02-2012, 11:03 AM

Not good, we have no runningback, no quarterback, it's going to be a long season. The only thing to look forward to will be the new seats (if they even go in this year).

jagators63 · 12-02-2012, 11:56 AM

Hilman, Give Eskimos GM time to rebuilt the team especially offence but for the defence, no worries about it.

Hilman · 12-02-2012, 01:24 PM

I have given them time, I am tired of them rarely making the playoffs which is tough to do when 3 teams make it out of 4. Now we have no running back and a horrible quarterback, it's going to be another long year of going to their games

Sonic Death Monkey · 14-02-2012, 01:20 PM

Jason Barnes to sign in T.O.
http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=387814

jagators63 · 14-02-2012, 09:45 PM

Messam have signed with Dolphins today.

http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=387834

jagators63 · 23-02-2012, 07:36 PM

Esks have traded punter-kicker Eric Wilbur to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers for future considerations.

http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=388639

Sonic Death Monkey · 29-02-2012, 01:46 PM

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/201...r-calgary-job/

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Edmonton Eskimo Special Teams Coordinator Rick Campbell has resigned, the club announced today.

Campbell stepped down to accept a job with the Calgary Stampeders.

Hilman · 10-04-2012, 12:46 PM

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Esks ‘unleash’ 2012 plans and unveil new look for stadium
April 10, 2012

Eskimo fans will be draped in the club’s colours when the much anticipated replacement of the seats at Commonwealth Stadium is completed.

At today’s ”Kickoff 2012” media luncheon, Edmonton Eskimo President and CEO Len Rhodes unveiled samples of the new seats and the overall design of the stadium ‘makeover’ that will start this summer. It’s expected to take close to two years to complete the project.

Most rows in the stadium have been reduced by one seat to accommodate the new seats which are wider and feature individual cupholders. Executive suites will be outfitted with a highbacked padded seat, while the current bench seating in the north and south end zones will be replaced with a half-back seat.

Rhodes says, “The new seats will greatly improve the game day experience for our fans and the creative design leaves no doubt that Commonwealth Stadium is the home of the Green and Gold!”

Rhodes also announced a number of other fan pleasing initiatives this season, including the return of the popular Green ‘n Go program which gives Eskimo ticket holders a ride on regular transit, LRT or Park and Ride services to and from each home game. As well, the Jackie Parker and Quarterback Clubs, located on the West and East sides of the stadium respectively, will now be open to all fans. The Green and Gold Club will return to the newly refurbished gymnasium at the Commonwealth Community Recreation Centre (CCRC).

http://www.esks.com/article/esks-unl...ok-for-stadium

New Seats with cup holder

MrOilers · 11-04-2012, 11:31 AM

Those seats look nice.

Now all we need is a good quarterback, a good running back, and a good defensive coordinator, or the Eskimos will suck.

Hilman · 30-05-2012, 03:02 PM

Got an email from the Esks about a few special parties after the games hosted at the Fieldhouse, can't wait for some Ice Ice Baby

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The Edmonton Eskimos Presents 4 Huge Postgame Cabarets in the Fieldhouse

Finger Eleven - June 30th
Dallas Smith - September 22nd
Oom Pah Pah Band, DJ Harmon B and the Shuplatters Dance Group - October 13th
Vanilla Ice - November 2nd

The Edmonton Eskimos are pleased to present a 2012 post game cabaret series. Cabarets will be held in the Field House at Commonwealth Stadium.

Rockin' Season Opener with Finger Eleven Saturday, June 30th

Doors open at 8:00 pm, show starts at 9:00 pm

Presale Price: $19* for Season Seat Holders, Presale starts May 30th at 2:30 pm and ends June 1st at 5:00 pm

Price - $29.00* - Public onsale June 1st at 10:00am

Country Night with Dallas Smith Saturday, Sept 22nd

Doors open at 8:00 pm, show starts at 9:00 pm

Presale Price: $19.00* for Season Seat Holders. Presale starts June 1st, 2012 at 10:00 am and ends June 15th at 10:00 am,

Price - $29.00* - Public onsale, June 15th, 2012 at 10:00 am

Pinktoberfest with Oom Pah Pah Band, DJ Harmon B and the Shuplatters Dance Group Saturday, October 13th

Doors open at 5:00 pm, show starts at 6:00 pm

Presale Price: $19.00* for Season Seat Holders. Presale starts June 1st, 2012 at 10:00 am and ends June 15th at 10:00 am, Price - $29.00* - Public onsale, June 15th, 2012 at 10:00 am

Fan Appreciation Night with Vanilla Ice, Friday, November 2nd

Doors open at 9:00 pm, show starts at 10:00 pm

Presale Price: $19.00* for Season Seat Holders. Presale starts June 1st, 2012 at 10:00 am and ends June 15th at 10:00 am, Price - $29.00* - Public onsale, June 15th, 2012 at 10:00 am

For further information, please contact the Edmonton Eskimo Football Club at (780)448-3757

12-12-2011, 12:37 PM	#104
Sonic Death Monkey Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Downtown	Rumor also has it that the Esks may try to get Henry Burris, who wants out of Calgary. __________________ “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

12-12-2011, 02:04 PM	#107
Edmontonfan Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton	live conference on 630 ched right now __________________ Edmontonian and proud of it!

12-12-2011, 07:04 PM	#109
jagators63 Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton (belevedre)	Ricky Ray need to let go and get a better QB with strong arm , quick release while gets good reading. I believe it is time to get a good QB who can pass 10- 20 yards every time. __________________ Edmonton Rocks Rocks Rocks

14-12-2011, 07:16 PM	#111
Replacement Addicted to C2E Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonton	Not crying over this. Ray hasn't been much in recent yrs. This year the team was 6th in offense and first downs despite having some of the best weapons in the league for Ray to work with. Even with a 100K cut in pay Rays contract still represented negative value in a capped league. Not sure why we ever extended the contract really but I suspect to get some stock in trade. Theres sources saying a deal with Hamilton fell through last year as well but only because the Ray camp wanted to not be moved in exchange for an agreed reduction in salary. Ray was making 512K/yr as recently as the 2010 season. Thats a huge amount in a smallcap league. He'll have trouble finding recievers in Toronto. Unless he pays some to play there.. __________________ Making being wrong an artform since 2006..

02-01-2012, 04:48 PM	#117
Sonic Death Monkey Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Downtown	Stamps QB Henry Burris going to the Ti-Cats: http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=384050 __________________ “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

12-12-2011, 01:06 PM	#105
lobbdogg Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Edmonton	I like Ricky Ray and all, but over the last few years, I've thought he has plateau'd as a QB, I'm ok with going for a fresh look at that position.

12-12-2011, 01:41 PM	#106
Doug Addicted to C2E Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: edmonton, alberta	I would still rate Ray as one of the top 3 QB's in the league. They better be getting someone other than Jyles to fill the QB position. Don't like this trade at all unless there is a signing or follow-up trade.

12-12-2011, 02:09 PM	#108
MrOilers Addicted to C2E Join Date: May 2008	Burris is NOT the guy we want to replace Ray. He has won one Grey Cup in 2008, but he has been getting worse ever since. He was absolute garbage this year, and I think his career is almost done.

12-12-2011, 11:30 PM	#110
Cured Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Edmonton	That was kind of "out of the blue". Not like we have any young QBs of note in development. I really figured Ray would be here until the end of his career. With the 100th Grey Cup in Toronto next year, i guess Brailey and the Argos are looking to make some kind of impact in the GTA.

14-12-2011, 08:50 PM	#112
Doug Addicted to C2E Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: edmonton, alberta	Ray threw for about 25 touchdowns and had 11 interceptions. Other than the QB in Montreal how many other QB's had better stats? He is going to be very hard, if not impossible, to replace. This was not a move that made the team better. This is about a GM with a huge ego that is putting his own stamp on this team. Time will tell if this was a smart move, I believe it wasn't.

15-12-2011, 07:51 AM	#114
lobbdogg Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Edmonton	Not to mention, that Ray was getting very predictable. The defense knew that if they could collapse on the pocket, then there would be a good chance they'd come up with a sack. If no play is available from the pocket, he struggles to make most other plays. Some of this did have to do with the O line at times, but it wasn't always their fault either. Is Jyles the right man for the job? Who knows, but I know I spent many games yelling at the TV because Ray got sacked...again

15-12-2011, 08:15 AM	#115
MrOilers Addicted to C2E Join Date: May 2008	Ray is the type of quarterback who would rather take the sack than throw a bad interception. Sacks suck, but turning over the ball is worse. Supposing that Ray wasn't the best fit for the team, who is going to be our quarterback next year? Joseph is too old and he's no good. Jyles is garbage. Unless some unknown steps up and has a stellar season (highly unlikely), the Eskimos are going to do worse than Saskatchewan next year.

15-12-2011, 10:02 AM	#116
Doug Addicted to C2E Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: edmonton, alberta	I would much rather have a QB that can throw the ball then one with nervous feet who takes off like a scared rabbit. Jyles is not the answer. Ray is still in the top 15 percent of QB's in the league.

02-01-2012, 05:43 PM	#118
Hilman Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ozerna, North Edmonton	Now what, Jyles is definitely not the answer......

02-01-2012, 08:56 PM	#119
Doug Addicted to C2E Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: edmonton, alberta	They just extended Joseph's contract so he may be the guy. Maybe Hamilton will trade Glen to the Eskimos. Both of those options are not a step up from Ray and they cannot go with Jyles.

02-01-2012, 09:17 PM	#120
Sonic Death Monkey Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Downtown	^ Glenn is going to the Stamps in the Burris deal __________________ “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

07-01-2012, 11:42 AM	#121
McBoo Addicted to C2E Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edmonton, Canada	Stubler, gone Ray, gone Eskies QB is Stephen Jyles The fanatics are right. 2012 IS the end of the world ... __________________ Linda Sloan - Danielle's BFF Hoot

12-02-2012, 10:36 AM	#124
Sonic Death Monkey Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Downtown	Messam to the Dolphins? http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=387601 __________________ “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

12-02-2012, 11:03 AM	#125
Hilman Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ozerna, North Edmonton	Not good, we have no runningback, no quarterback, it's going to be a long season. The only thing to look forward to will be the new seats (if they even go in this year).

12-02-2012, 11:56 AM	#126
jagators63 Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton (belevedre)	Hilman, Give Eskimos GM time to rebuilt the team especially offence but for the defence, no worries about it. __________________ Edmonton Rocks Rocks Rocks

12-02-2012, 01:24 PM	#127
Hilman Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ozerna, North Edmonton	I have given them time, I am tired of them rarely making the playoffs which is tough to do when 3 teams make it out of 4. Now we have no running back and a horrible quarterback, it's going to be another long year of going to their games

14-02-2012, 01:20 PM	#128
Sonic Death Monkey Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Downtown	Jason Barnes to sign in T.O. http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=387814 __________________ “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

14-02-2012, 09:45 PM	#129
jagators63 Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton (belevedre)	Messam have signed with Dolphins today. http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=387834 __________________ Edmonton Rocks Rocks Rocks

23-02-2012, 07:36 PM	#130
jagators63 Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Edmonton (belevedre)	Esks have traded punter-kicker Eric Wilbur to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers for future considerations. http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=388639 __________________ Edmonton Rocks Rocks Rocks

11-04-2012, 11:31 AM	#133
MrOilers Addicted to C2E Join Date: May 2008	Those seats look nice. Now all we need is a good quarterback, a good running back, and a good defensive coordinator, or the Eskimos will suck.