Edmonton East Riding Discussion

Admin · 13-04-2011, 11:06 AM

For discussing candidate platforms, praises, and concerns.

jstock · 13-04-2011, 01:06 PM

Goldring's people don't even know where his riding's boundaries are. They've been sending us mail for 2 years and we live in Edm-Sh. Park.

Komrade · 13-04-2011, 04:44 PM

Goldring is a dead fish. The guy can literally do nothing and get re-elected. Bah humbug.

kcantor · 13-04-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jstock

Goldring's people don't even know where his riding's boundaries are. They've been sending us mail for 2 years and we live in Edm-Sh. Park.

that's okay - we do live in the riding and we get mail and calls from or on behalf of mary macdonald who's running in edmonton centre, not edmonton east. *&^% happens and people get on to lists they shouldn't be on. not that big a deal. out of curiosity, have you returned the mail or called about it?

jstock · 13-04-2011, 08:32 PM

^Yep, I've been calling the constituency office, and leaving messages (no on picks up) with our condo complex address. Still getting them. I returned some last year with a note scribbled on them too.

Still getting them.

Last year the federal website where you look up your MP gave my postal code as having two MPs, but simply looking at the map, it's quite obvious that our address is not in his riding. But I guess my notes and calls are being disregarded.

jizzaldo · 13-04-2011, 09:41 PM

Good to hear kcantor is a fellow northsider!

East McCauley · 16-04-2011, 05:36 PM

Earlier this afternoon, I was shocked to see signs for the Liberal Edmonton East candidate on the site of the cenotaph in Beverly honouring our veterans. Perhaps he's trying to make up for his lack of signs on private property. But politicizing the cenotaph site with election signs crosses the line. I really hope they get taken down.

MrOilers · 20-04-2011, 11:32 AM

Ray Martin (NDP) is the only candidate who has a shot, but Goldring will likley be re-elected by a lot.

East McCauley · 22-04-2011, 09:43 AM

^ Agreed. But I think the race will be close and Ray Martin has a shot at winning this time.

jmart81 · 22-04-2011, 10:15 AM

Too bad we didn't have an electoral system say like Germany's where you vote for a representative for the riding, and vote for a party in a party list vote as well. The Tories would probably have the most votes as a party, but Peter Goldring would never win.

langis · 25-04-2011, 02:42 PM

Voting Ray Martin and hoping enough others do the same to topple Goldring and take away another Conservative seat.

Komrade · 26-04-2011, 12:02 PM

Ray Martin!!

envaneo · 27-04-2011, 12:40 AM

Goldring! ! !

millwoods · 27-04-2011, 01:49 AM

just gonna leave this right here for all the progressives:

http://www.projectdemocracy.ca/edmonton-east

Could our province really unseat a MP with the golden conservative ticket??!! This riding and Calgary West shock me the most. I mean, the shockingly neo-conservative comments of Calgary West's incumbent (actually called Mandela a terrorist) lead everyone to believe that a pig with shades can win in Alberta if the ticket is for the Cons

nosheep · 27-04-2011, 02:22 AM

Normal i would vote NDP but dad he voting con, and dad he's smarter than 99% of you and has the money to show so.....

jmart81 · 27-04-2011, 08:17 AM

That project democracy site is a bit hypocritical. I totally understand what they are doing, trying to stop vote spitting, but what about the vote splitting that happens to get a Liberal, NDP, or even a Bloc member a seat. No problems there, but if its a Tory....good god its the end of society as we know it. Just to point out, they are suggesting to vote for Bloc members in a few ridings to prevent a Tory being elected.

Strategic is like I said, bit hypocritical, but that is really needed is a better and more fair electoral system.

jizzaldo · 27-04-2011, 08:35 AM

I thought this was interesting, can't believe this guy (goldring) represents me
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...820/story.html

North Guy66 · 27-04-2011, 09:35 AM

^ Yes, vote that useless Goldring out of office. Hopefully the voters in Edmonton-East will elect Ray Martin.

Komrade · 27-04-2011, 12:14 PM

Ray Martin baby! He has a fighting shot. If the Youth of Edmonton East finally went to the polls we would get Goldring outta there no doubt

Komrade · 27-04-2011, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jizzaldo

I thought this was interesting, can't believe this guy (goldring) represents me
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...820/story.html

WOW!

After reading this, what a goof.

Your disgusting Goldring. Cant believe you represent me also!

Blueline · 27-04-2011, 12:18 PM

Peter "Say nothing, do nothing, see nothing + be invisible" Goldring
Stevo's perfect western Conservative candidate + member

edmonton90 · 27-04-2011, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmart81

That project democracy site is a bit hypocritical. I totally understand what they are doing, trying to stop vote spitting, but what about the vote splitting that happens to get a Liberal, NDP, or even a Bloc member a seat. No problems there, but if its a Tory....good god its the end of society as we know it. Just to point out, they are suggesting to vote for Bloc members in a few ridings to prevent a Tory being elected.

Strategic is like I said, bit hypocritical, but that is really needed is a better and more fair electoral system.

It say upfront that the site is intended as a tool to help avoid a Harper majority.

edmonton90 · 27-04-2011, 12:30 PM

If Goldring gets a little more negative media attention in the next couple days, i'd say an NDP win is definitely possible. It might be a little too late though.

jmart81 · 27-04-2011, 12:52 PM

[/QUOTE]

It say upfront that the site is intended as a tool to help avoid a Harper majority.[/QUOTE]

Exactly..."project democracy" telling people who they should vote for instead of trying to figure out who they would want to vote for. Having said that, I am in no way, shape or form a NDP supporter, but I would rather see an MP like Ray Martin working then Goldring. They articles in the paper the past couple days sum up his past 10+ years in office.

jizzaldo · 27-04-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Komrade

Ray Martin baby! He has a fighting shot. If the Youth of Edmonton East finally went to the polls we would get Goldring outta there no doubt

If the liberal vote combined into the NDP vote, Ray would make it. I'm not in favour of having the NDP run the country, but I am highly in favour of having Ray Martin represent me and my riding. that being said, I don't support Harper running the coutry either.

Alex87 · 27-04-2011, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jizzaldo

I thought this was interesting, can't believe this guy (goldring) represents me
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...820/story.html

I don't think I've ever seen Babiak write a kind word about the Tories, so I'd take his opinion with a grain of salt.

Blueline · 27-04-2011, 04:01 PM

Alex I would agree with you but Goldring is a hump at best

MrOilers · 28-04-2011, 08:53 AM

I don't like Goldring at all and I think he is a horrible MP.

Regardless, I am voting for him because I think the Conservatives are the best party suited to run the country right now. I will never vote NDP.

jizzaldo · 28-04-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MrOilers

I don't like Goldring at all and I think he is a horrible MP.

Regardless, I am voting for him because I think the Conservatives are the best party suited to run the country right now. I will never vote NDP.

Conservatives will run the country anyways, and while unfortunaltely I agree with you on that, I think Ray Martin would be our best local representative, he's high profile, and we can send a message to Harper that we shouldn't be ignored.

North Guy66 · 28-04-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MrOilers

I don't like Goldring at all and I think he is a horrible MP.

Regardless, I am voting for him because I think the Conservatives are the best party suited to run the country right now. I will never vote NDP.

So you will never vote NDP. And I assume you'll never vote Liberal or Green.

But you will vote for the most useless MP in Edmonton's history. In other words if a magpie was running for the Conservatives, people will still vote Conservative. Peter Goldring is the most expensive welfare recipient because he gets an MP's salary and pension for doing absolutely nothing.

MrOilers · 28-04-2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by North Guy66

So you will never vote NDP. And I assume you'll never vote Liberal or Green.

No, you are wrong. I have voted Liberal before.

I will never vote NDP, because I fundamentally disagree with their root policies. I don't think this country would be run well by NDP. The Greens are a waste of a vote.

I am voting for the Conservative Party of Canada and want Stephen Harper to be my Prime Minister. The only way for me to support that is to vote for Goldring.

Blueline · 28-04-2011, 01:17 PM

do your riding a favor and just spoil your ballot

240GLT · 28-04-2011, 01:54 PM

I lost what shred of respect I had for Goldring when he started sending out hate literature to his constituents funded by taxpayers money

MrOilers · 28-04-2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueline

do your riding a favor and just spoil your ballot

It really demonstrates a serious flaw with our voting system, doesn't it?

Komrade · 28-04-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 240GLT

I lost what shred of respect I had for Goldring when he started sending out hate literature to his constituents funded by taxpayers money

This

That goof sent papers smearing Louie Reil of all people to his areas people. What a goof.

Blueline · 29-04-2011, 07:37 AM

Well he appeared on camaera on last nights noose .............
likley no one recognised him

East McCauley · 29-04-2011, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240GLT

I lost what shred of respect I had for Goldring when he started sending out hate literature to his constituents funded by taxpayers money

I deliver copies of the Boyle McCauley News in my neighbourhood. I was shocked that the May 2011 edition hot off the presses and delivered yesterday to my home contained an advertisement from Peter Goldring identifying himself as a Member of Parliament. Not sure if this ad was paid for by public dollars or campaign dollars. Regardless, claiming to be a MP after an election is called is a violation of the Elections Act.

"1. What is the status of Members of the House of Commons following dissolution?

After dissolution, and the issue of writs for a general election, there are legally no Members of the House of Commons....Upon dissolution of Parliament, members of the House of Commons lose their status and title."
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/re...0812-e.htm#mp1

kcantor · 29-04-2011, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by East McCauley

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240GLT

I lost what shred of respect I had for Goldring when he started sending out hate literature to his constituents funded by taxpayers money

I deliver copies of the Boyle McCauley News in my neighbourhood. I was shocked that the May 2011 edition hot off the presses and delivered yesterday to my home contained an advertisement from Peter Goldring identifying himself as a Member of Parliament. Not sure if this ad was paid for by public dollars or campaign dollars. Regardless, claiming to be a MP after an election is called is a violation of the Elections Act.

"1. What is the status of Members of the House of Commons following dissolution?

After dissolution, and the issue of writs for a general election, there are legally no Members of the House of Commons....Upon dissolution of Parliament, members of the House of Commons lose their status and title."
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/re...0812-e.htm#mp1

was this a large new ad or the standard community newsletter businesscard ad that is typically booked, purchased and prepaid for a year in advance? if the latter, an election date was probably not even planned when it was bought and paid for and, if anything, the editor should have clarified or pulled the ad for this month (although you would be equally correct in thinking goldring should have been keeping track of his "advertising" and pulling it as well). not to "excuse" either of them but there's probably bigger issues to determine who to vote for - or not - than something like this. besides, those ads aren't usually meant to actually generate support anyway. possibly awareness but more likely they are simply an opportunity to provide dollars - however nominal - to support grass roots community ventures like community league newsletters.

East McCauley · 30-04-2011, 08:50 AM

^The Goldring ad was not the business card type. It has a photo of Goldring and identifies him as the Member of Parliament for Edmonton East.

The text of the ad seems clearly intended to win political support in the McCauley neighbourhood. The ad covers 40% of a tabloid sized page and describes in detail Goldring's role in "saving" our neighbourhood ice skating rink from a proposal to use a portion of the rink site for social housing a number of years ago.

The contact information on the ad takes you to his parliamentary website and constituency office phone number.

Makes me wonder if similar ads with tailored messages were placed in other community newspapers elsewhere in the riding.

13-04-2011, 11:06 AM	#1
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13-04-2011, 01:06 PM	#2
jstock Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clareview	Goldring's people don't even know where his riding's boundaries are. They've been sending us mail for 2 years and we live in Edm-Sh. Park. __________________ ~~$2.00~~ ~~$2.25~~ ~~$2.50~~ ~~$2.75~~ ~~$2.85~~ ~~$3.00~~ $3.20 Anyone have a dime?

13-04-2011, 04:44 PM	#3
Komrade Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beverly	Goldring is a dead fish. The guy can literally do nothing and get re-elected. Bah humbug. __________________ facebook.com/BrothersGrimMusic youtube.com/GrimEmpire

13-04-2011, 08:32 PM	#5
jstock Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clareview	^Yep, I've been calling the constituency office, and leaving messages (no on picks up) with our condo complex address. Still getting them. I returned some last year with a note scribbled on them too. Still getting them. Last year the federal website where you look up your MP gave my postal code as having two MPs, but simply looking at the map, it's quite obvious that our address is not in his riding. But I guess my notes and calls are being disregarded. __________________ ~~$2.00~~ ~~$2.25~~ ~~$2.50~~ ~~$2.75~~ ~~$2.85~~ ~~$3.00~~ $3.20 Anyone have a dime?

25-04-2011, 02:42 PM	#11
langis Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Edmonton AB	Voting Ray Martin and hoping enough others do the same to topple Goldring and take away another Conservative seat. __________________ http://handsomefatman.com — Pondering Entertainment

13-04-2011, 09:41 PM	#6
jizzaldo Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Oct 2010	Good to hear kcantor is a fellow northsider!

16-04-2011, 05:36 PM	#7
East McCauley Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton	Earlier this afternoon, I was shocked to see signs for the Liberal Edmonton East candidate on the site of the cenotaph in Beverly honouring our veterans. Perhaps he's trying to make up for his lack of signs on private property. But politicizing the cenotaph site with election signs crosses the line. I really hope they get taken down.

20-04-2011, 11:32 AM	#8
MrOilers Addicted to C2E Join Date: May 2008	Ray Martin (NDP) is the only candidate who has a shot, but Goldring will likley be re-elected by a lot.

22-04-2011, 09:43 AM	#9
East McCauley Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton	^ Agreed. But I think the race will be close and Ray Martin has a shot at winning this time.

22-04-2011, 10:15 AM	#10
jmart81 Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton	Too bad we didn't have an electoral system say like Germany's where you vote for a representative for the riding, and vote for a party in a party list vote as well. The Tories would probably have the most votes as a party, but Peter Goldring would never win.

26-04-2011, 12:02 PM	#12
Komrade Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beverly	Ray Martin!! __________________ facebook.com/BrothersGrimMusic youtube.com/GrimEmpire

27-04-2011, 12:40 AM	#13
envaneo Addicted to C2E Join Date: May 2008 Location: Clairview	Goldring! ! ! __________________ Clareview rocks!

27-04-2011, 01:49 AM	#14
millwoods Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Oct 2010	just gonna leave this right here for all the progressives: http://www.projectdemocracy.ca/edmonton-east Could our province really unseat a MP with the golden conservative ticket??!! This riding and Calgary West shock me the most. I mean, the shockingly neo-conservative comments of Calgary West's incumbent (actually called Mandela a terrorist) lead everyone to believe that a pig with shades can win in Alberta if the ticket is for the Cons

27-04-2011, 02:22 AM	#15
nosheep Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2011	Normal i would vote NDP but dad he voting con, and dad he's smarter than 99% of you and has the money to show so.....

27-04-2011, 08:17 AM	#16
jmart81 Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton	That project democracy site is a bit hypocritical. I totally understand what they are doing, trying to stop vote spitting, but what about the vote splitting that happens to get a Liberal, NDP, or even a Bloc member a seat. No problems there, but if its a Tory....good god its the end of society as we know it. Just to point out, they are suggesting to vote for Bloc members in a few ridings to prevent a Tory being elected. Strategic is like I said, bit hypocritical, but that is really needed is a better and more fair electoral system.

27-04-2011, 08:35 AM	#17
jizzaldo Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Oct 2010	I thought this was interesting, can't believe this guy (goldring) represents me http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...820/story.html

27-04-2011, 09:35 AM	#18
North Guy66 Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bonnie Doon	^ Yes, vote that useless Goldring out of office. Hopefully the voters in Edmonton-East will elect Ray Martin.

27-04-2011, 12:14 PM	#19
Komrade Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beverly	Ray Martin baby! He has a fighting shot. If the Youth of Edmonton East finally went to the polls we would get Goldring outta there no doubt __________________ facebook.com/BrothersGrimMusic youtube.com/GrimEmpire

27-04-2011, 12:18 PM	#21
Blueline Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton	Peter "Say nothing, do nothing, see nothing + be invisible" Goldring Stevo's perfect western Conservative candidate + member __________________ Still waiting for the Arlington site to be reborn .......

27-04-2011, 12:30 PM	#23
edmonton90 First One is Always Free Join Date: Sep 2010	If Goldring gets a little more negative media attention in the next couple days, i'd say an NDP win is definitely possible. It might be a little too late though.

27-04-2011, 12:52 PM	#24
jmart81 Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton	[/QUOTE] It say upfront that the site is intended as a tool to help avoid a Harper majority.[/QUOTE] Exactly..."project democracy" telling people who they should vote for instead of trying to figure out who they would want to vote for. Having said that, I am in no way, shape or form a NDP supporter, but I would rather see an MP like Ray Martin working then Goldring. They articles in the paper the past couple days sum up his past 10+ years in office.

27-04-2011, 04:01 PM	#27
Blueline Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton	Alex I would agree with you but Goldring is a hump at best __________________ Still waiting for the Arlington site to be reborn .......

28-04-2011, 08:53 AM	#28
MrOilers Addicted to C2E Join Date: May 2008	I don't like Goldring at all and I think he is a horrible MP. Regardless, I am voting for him because I think the Conservatives are the best party suited to run the country right now. I will never vote NDP.

28-04-2011, 01:17 PM	#32
Blueline Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton	do your riding a favor and just spoil your ballot __________________ Still waiting for the Arlington site to be reborn .......

28-04-2011, 01:54 PM	#33
240GLT Addicted to C2E Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: North central	I lost what shred of respect I had for Goldring when he started sending out hate literature to his constituents funded by taxpayers money __________________ Parkdale

29-04-2011, 07:37 AM	#36
Blueline Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton	Well he appeared on camaera on last nights noose ............. likley no one recognised him __________________ Still waiting for the Arlington site to be reborn .......

30-04-2011, 08:50 AM	#39
East McCauley Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton	^The Goldring ad was not the business card type. It has a photo of Goldring and identifies him as the Member of Parliament for Edmonton East. The text of the ad seems clearly intended to win political support in the McCauley neighbourhood. The ad covers 40% of a tabloid sized page and describes in detail Goldring's role in "saving" our neighbourhood ice skating rink from a proposal to use a portion of the rink site for social housing a number of years ago. The contact information on the ad takes you to his parliamentary website and constituency office phone number. Makes me wonder if similar ads with tailored messages were placed in other community newspapers elsewhere in the riding.