Alberta Soccer Association dispute

jmart81 · 12-02-2011, 04:37 PM

I've been meaning to post this for a while but keep forgetting. There maybe light at the end of the tunnel for this, but it has been going on for the past year or two and is extremely embarrassing to the soccer community here.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/busin...904/story.html

If you google Alberta Soccer dispute there are tons of articles about this. Or if your really bored and love to read endless amount of posts, a lot was talked about this on the Voyageurs forum.

http://www.cansoc.org/showthread.php...e-Continues-ON

Komrade · 13-02-2011, 12:19 PM

I have been watching this for a while now

It certainly doesnt shake the sterotype of soccer moms/dads being over-obsessive and trying to live their former glory days through their kids.

Why so much politics in a kids game that is supposed to be fun?

mnugent · 13-02-2011, 01:40 PM

^Many of the people on these boards have their lives vested in the soccer community. They work, play, and volunteer around soccer related activities. Their connection to the soccer community more than just a game for them but their sense of status and self-worth.
It's like high school for adults.

Komrade · 14-02-2011, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnugent

^many of the people on these boards have their lives vested in the soccer community. They work, play, and volunteer around soccer related activities. Their connection to the soccer community more than just a game for them but their sense of status and self-worth.
It's like high school for adults.

b-i-n-g-o!

jmart81 · 14-02-2011, 11:43 AM

Yep it is totally high school mentality, plus some of these people do get some sticky fingers in the cookie jar that is the registration fees. I don't know why some of the Edmonton Soccer associations have to have their AGMs in Banff every year.

jmart81 · 16-03-2011, 02:25 PM

Couple weeks ago the Alberta Court of Appeal ruled on a case between suspended Alberta Soccer Association members and the Canadian Soccer Association. Not only did they rule in favour of the Plaintiffs, but the justices in a nutshell said that the executive of the CSA should be arrested and charged with obstructing justice. Long story short, the suspended members wanted to take the ASA to court over reform issues, and the CSA suspended them because they wanted to take the ASA to court. I guess to them the CSA is above the Charter of Rights.

Link with a link to the judgment
http://www.soccersuffragist.com/site...-slams-the-csa

JBear · 16-03-2011, 02:36 PM

ha I was wondering about that when the CSA did that. That was pretty ballsy, arrogant and reeks of corruption and favoritism. I wonder why they supported Mr. Charpentier even after the courts ruled against him... hmmmmm

jmart81 · 16-03-2011, 02:52 PM

The CSA excuse was that "if we went to court, the bad boys in blazers at FIFA would be getting involved too." Basically played chicken with these few people and lost big time.

FIFA doesn't like the courts or governments to get into soccer business. I understand it to a point (as in a government trying to tell an organization how to run its day to day business), but if there is a legal issue or challenge, you can't obstruct it. FIFA of course isn't the most upstanding organization either.

Funny how this provincial board pi$$ing contest has turned into questioning how national sport associations are functioning and has the potential to get bigger. At the end of the day, there is going to be a lot more transparency in how minor sports is governed, but the dinosaurs that are clinging onto power are fighting tooth and nail to keep the old Cosa Nostra ways alive.

12-02-2011, 04:37 PM	#1
jmart81 Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton	Alberta Soccer Association dispute I've been meaning to post this for a while but keep forgetting. There maybe light at the end of the tunnel for this, but it has been going on for the past year or two and is extremely embarrassing to the soccer community here. http://www.edmontonjournal.com/busin...904/story.html If you google Alberta Soccer dispute there are tons of articles about this. Or if your really bored and love to read endless amount of posts, a lot was talked about this on the Voyageurs forum. http://www.cansoc.org/showthread.php...e-Continues-ON

13-02-2011, 12:19 PM	#2
Komrade Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beverly	I have been watching this for a while now It certainly doesnt shake the sterotype of soccer moms/dads being over-obsessive and trying to live their former glory days through their kids. Why so much politics in a kids game that is supposed to be fun? __________________ facebook.com/BrothersGrimMusic youtube.com/GrimEmpire

13-02-2011, 01:40 PM	#3
mnugent Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Edmonton	^Many of the people on these boards have their lives vested in the soccer community. They work, play, and volunteer around soccer related activities. Their connection to the soccer community more than just a game for them but their sense of status and self-worth. It's like high school for adults.

14-02-2011, 11:43 AM	#5
jmart81 Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton	Yep it is totally high school mentality, plus some of these people do get some sticky fingers in the cookie jar that is the registration fees. I don't know why some of the Edmonton Soccer associations have to have their AGMs in Banff every year.

16-03-2011, 02:25 PM	#6
jmart81 Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton	Couple weeks ago the Alberta Court of Appeal ruled on a case between suspended Alberta Soccer Association members and the Canadian Soccer Association. Not only did they rule in favour of the Plaintiffs, but the justices in a nutshell said that the executive of the CSA should be arrested and charged with obstructing justice. Long story short, the suspended members wanted to take the ASA to court over reform issues, and the CSA suspended them because they wanted to take the ASA to court. I guess to them the CSA is above the Charter of Rights. Link with a link to the judgment http://www.soccersuffragist.com/site...-slams-the-csa

16-03-2011, 02:36 PM	#7
JBear Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Back in E-Town!	ha I was wondering about that when the CSA did that. That was pretty ballsy, arrogant and reeks of corruption and favoritism. I wonder why they supported Mr. Charpentier even after the courts ruled against him... hmmmmm

16-03-2011, 02:52 PM	#8
jmart81 Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Edmonton	The CSA excuse was that "if we went to court, the bad boys in blazers at FIFA would be getting involved too." Basically played chicken with these few people and lost big time. FIFA doesn't like the courts or governments to get into soccer business. I understand it to a point (as in a government trying to tell an organization how to run its day to day business), but if there is a legal issue or challenge, you can't obstruct it. FIFA of course isn't the most upstanding organization either. Funny how this provincial board pi$$ing contest has turned into questioning how national sport associations are functioning and has the potential to get bigger. At the end of the day, there is going to be a lot more transparency in how minor sports is governed, but the dinosaurs that are clinging onto power are fighting tooth and nail to keep the old Cosa Nostra ways alive.