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noodle
18-02-2008, 11:11 AM
As spring is soon to be in the air, one young man's thoughts turn to his new condo and how he's going to have to jigger everything to have his cake and eat it too.

More specifically I am trying to figure out a way to mount/place my 50" plasma so that it is conducive to the activities it's required for, but not the focal point for the times that it's off. Component storage (receiver, set top box, game consoles) is also an issue, along with ensuring at least a mediocre surround sound speaker layout (ceiling and wall mount OK).

My suite layout is below. The den is already sorted for other activities, so it's a no-go. I found a relatively inexpensive wall unit replete with sliding doors at IKEA (http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/S19831234) that is about 15 cm longer than the wall between the living room and second bedroom (which is 7 1/2 feet long but otherwise in the ballpark.) Occluding the windows is also non-preferable, due to the fact I'd like to actually be able to see my lovely downtown view.

http://www.uptownedmonton.com/UPtown-A1.jpg

I have a few ideas floating around in my head, but most of them require an expenditure for cabinetry and mounts that exceed the cost of the actual panel which makes me feel a little odd, given my Edmontonian DIY pioneering attitude. Has anyone happened across a suitable piece of furniture/cabinetry? How're my fellow urbanite males handling the issue?

My current condo is decorated in what I like to call Modern Eccentric/Urban Slacker, given the fact that we had no money when we bought 5 years ago and have pieced together what we could afford, usually choosing function over form if they could not be reconciled. This will not be the case in the new place.

kcantor
18-02-2008, 11:44 AM
you may want to find something like this:

http://www.potterybarn.com/products/p9500/index.cfm?pkey=cfursmlabs

it would sit in the living room where you show your tv now but when it's not being watched it actually lowers into the back of the cabinet as the screen is fastened to a chain/belt driven drive that then hides it under a tilt top much like the ones on the old stereo/tv console units (showing my age again). one of my neighbors was going to purchase just the lift mechanism and incorporate into a "home-built" unit which might be a less expensive option if you're handy.

noodle
18-02-2008, 12:08 PM
you may want to find something like this:

http://www.potterybarn.com/products/p9500/index.cfm?pkey=cfursmlabs

it would sit in the living room where you show your tv now but when it's not being watched it actually lowers into the back of the cabinet as the screen is fastened to a chain/belt driven drive that then hides it under a tilt top much like the ones on the old stereo/tv console units (showing my age again). one of my neighbors was going to purchase just the lift mechanism and incorporate into a "home-built" unit which might be a less expensive option if you're handy.

I'm handy, but not finish carpentry and cabinetmaking handy. To that end I've been looking at the lifts available online and noticing they're not really of the sort of aesthetic that will pervade the rest of my house.

newfangled
18-02-2008, 02:16 PM
This isn't quite what you're asking for, but as an alternative you could hide the guts of your system in the second bedroom.

Mount the plasma on the wall (or on an unobtrusive stand) in the main room, drill a few holes in the wall, and fish all the cabling next door.

Then in the bedroom hide everything in a dresser or something, and use a cheap, old computer as an HTPC with a USB-UIRT to run everything.

(I would link to descriptions of the acronyms, except the handy buttons seem to have disappeared from the forum...they're all easily googleable though).

It doesn't solve your speaker problem, but it lets you hide a lot of equipment.

And there are lots of good products to hide cabling - I used these guys a few years ago: http://cableorganizer.com/cable-raceway/

Just another option.

IanO
18-02-2008, 02:26 PM
as luck would have it, i have rendered your unit in 3d for a friend who also lives there...pm me if you would like me to send it to you.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x164/coldrsx/noodleunit.jpg

noodle
18-02-2008, 02:33 PM
Close, but not quite my unit (kitchen is a dead giveaway that yours is a B not A1). I've got a sketchup done of just the walls in my place, extruded from the plan itself. It's coming in handy just for doing massing models and seeing what fits where. Thanks for the offer though! Yours is far more polished than mine.

IanO
18-02-2008, 02:50 PM
with regards to the TV...unless you are going custom, that will be hard to accomplish. The ikea unit is decent at the goal.

ideally i would recommend getting the drywall cutout and recess the tv into the wall flush. you could even do it so that just the screen is showing which makes for a very very clean look.

components etc. i would get a nice cabinet below for with wires fished from the wall to the tv.

however, my friend and i designed a unit that i almost built which sound like it would be right up your alley.

I dont have the original images anymore, but more or less the below:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x164/coldrsx/tvandcase.jpg

noodle
18-02-2008, 03:40 PM
This isn't quite what you're asking for, but as an alternative you could hide the guts of your system in the second bedroom.

Mount the plasma on the wall (or on an unobtrusive stand) in the main room, drill a few holes in the wall, and fish all the cabling next door.

Then in the bedroom hide everything in a dresser or something, and use a cheap, old computer as an HTPC with a USB-UIRT to run everything.

(I would link to descriptions of the acronyms, except the handy buttons seem to have disappeared from the forum...they're all easily googleable though).

It doesn't solve your speaker problem, but it lets you hide a lot of equipment.

And there are lots of good products to hide cabling - I used these guys a few years ago: http://cableorganizer.com/cable-raceway/

Just another option.

My electronics are sorted, as far as non-line of sight control (I have a Harmony 890 RF remote) and HDMI & audio distribution around the place. It's just the one issue of hiding the Kuro from view when I am not basking in its magnificence. I am impressed that someone else around here knows what a UIRT is though!


with regards to the TV...unless you are going custom, that will be hard to accomplish. The ikea unit is decent at the goal.

ideally i would recommend getting the drywall cutout and recess the tv into the wall flush. you could even do it so that just the screen is showing which makes for a very very clean look.

components etc. i would get a nice cabinet below for with wires fished from the wall to the tv.

I'm already a bit of a wiring nut. I retrofitted a PAX wardrobe from IKEA into media cabinet duty, but at 7 feet tall it's a bit too far into the aforementioned function over form camp to survive the move.

I was considering rather than cutting completely through the wall, building out enough to use the depth of the wall to hide some of the depth of the larger components without intruding into the volume of the bedroom, and then hiding the panel itself inside of a sort of "medicine cabinet" but with horizontally split doors (akin to a freight elevator) about 18" high sliding vertically apart to reveal the panel. There's no way to actually have horizontally sliding doors not impede upon the doorway as the panel takes over 50% of the horizontal room.

I also found this whilst googling lifts and flat panel furniture. It's not quite there, but I thought it was novel:
http://i.fosfor.se/i07/071004_3b.jpg

It's only a concept so I'd have to have it knocked together for me. I am just a little "meh" on the fabric curtains themselves, though that's an easy fix with proper material choices.

noodle
18-02-2008, 04:27 PM
Here's my lo-fi sketchup. Note the lack of proper doorframes or cabinetry or any other accoutrements. It's meant strictly for "will it fit" scenarios.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2394/2275688138_a36f0992b2_o.jpg

kcantor
18-02-2008, 06:26 PM
...It's only a concept so I'd have to have it knocked together for me. I am just a little "meh" on the fabric curtains themselves, though that's an easy fix with proper material choices.
instead of fabric, you could have something fabricated like two roll top desk tops only sliding sideways - one to each side - rather than up and back. some of the storefront or store display rolling security shutters might work and be a bit more "high tech" in their look than wood...