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Sonic Death Monkey
02-04-2010, 06:47 PM
The new downtown plan calls for a new urban park in the Warehouse district - this is the area bordered by 105 St, Jasper Ave, 109 St and 104 Ave. Where would be the best location for it?

My first thought is part of the BP lands.

jagators63
02-04-2010, 06:54 PM
The new downtown plan calls for a new urban park in the Warehouse district - this is the area bordered by 105 St, Jasper Ave, 109 St and 104 Ave. Where would be the best location for it?

My first thought is part of the BP lands.


that's a hard question to where it would be best location??? so I prefer let anyone share their opinions

as for me, I think it should be bordered by jasper ave from 104 st to 109 st and 104 ave

edmontonenthusiast
02-04-2010, 07:54 PM
jagator is right, I can't believe you didn't at least include the anchor Warehouse district street 104 Street. That street is more "warehouse" than say 106 st or 107 st. Jasper-104 Ave no doubt. 103-109 St to me then is the boundaries. And it makes sense, there are many old brick buildings on the west part of 103 St, and immediately across you see the early modern styles of the CBD. Same for the east side of 109 St, then the other side is the new yuck of Railtown.

I would love one on 104 St, but I think the parking lots will likely become condos instead of that. Revamp Beaver Hills into a more modern, chic plaza would be great. Close to 104 st and on high profile 105 St and Jasper Ave. Maybe anchor out a patio from Sobeys onto it? Or there's the 105/102 avenue location which is rumoured already for a park. Still not bad, and help revitalize 102 ave for sure. Plus the LRT would go straight past it. BP Lands would also be cool, although behind Jasper as Jasper should be prime retail position for "Jasper west". Maybe somewhere in the Arena district? Although that's outside of the Warehouse.

So...in order

1. Revamp Beaver Hills
2. 102 ave/105 st
3. BP Lands somewhere behind jasper

jagators63
02-04-2010, 08:00 PM
103 st would have been included but many buildings were gone from 70's and 80's

edmontonenthusiast
02-04-2010, 08:01 PM
You could say that about most streets in the district. It still has some old bones though.

edmonton daily photo
02-04-2010, 08:07 PM
The Two large surface lots along 103 ave and between 107 and 108 st

jagators63
02-04-2010, 08:14 PM
do you think city councillors made many bad planning that got many buildings in this warehouse district being demolished in the 70's and 80's ??

Sonic Death Monkey
02-04-2010, 09:24 PM
1. Revamp Beaver Hills
2. 102 ave/105 st
3. BP Lands somewhere behind jasper


The Two large surface lots along 103 ave and between 107 and 108 st

Thanks for the relevant answers to this thread.
Healy Ford is moving out. Any lots they currently use should be considered.

jagators63
02-04-2010, 09:31 PM
why healy ford is moving out of downtown core ??

Sonic Death Monkey
02-04-2010, 09:37 PM
why healy ford is moving out of downtown core ??

Look, not be rude, but why don't you try doing more research and reading on this board instead of trying to divert topics with your stupid questions???

Here, I used the search funtion on this board and found this:
http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=3539

I need a drink. Later.

jagators63
02-04-2010, 09:42 PM
why healy ford is moving out of downtown core ??

Look, not be rude, but why don't you try doing more research and reading on this board instead of trying to divert topics with your stupid questions???

Here, I used the search funtion on this board and found this:
http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=3539

I need a drink. Later.


remember I just join a member here on march 7 th but as for healy ford moving out to sherwood Park is really news to me because I have not heard anything about it.

JOA
02-04-2010, 10:16 PM
Next time try the convenient search box in the top right corner of C2E's home page then. I think it's safe to assume that any big issue in Edmonton that didn't just happen (i.e. YXD closure) will already have a post for your reference.

jagators63
02-04-2010, 11:26 PM
Next time try the convenient search box in the top right corner of C2E's home page then. I think it's safe to assume that any big issue in Edmonton that didn't just happen (i.e. YXD closure) will already have a post for your reference.



The story about healy ford moving out of downtown was happened long before I joined here last month , this is still news to me as I didn't know about it.

JOA
02-04-2010, 11:51 PM
Then, again, it's safe to assume there's already a post on it, which using the search box will confirm.

GreenSPACE
03-04-2010, 11:16 AM
The former "Scott Property" at the NW corner of 105 Street and 102 Avenue was purchased by the city several years ago for a park. As we speak it is being moved into the Parks Dept inventory. I know the new Downtown Plan calls for a Parks plan to be developed and to identify where all the potential sites for pocket parks, linear parks, etc will be, but DECL and Community Services may be given the go-ahead to start consultation on the Scott property site before this Park plan is developed, which could be close to a 2 year process. Considering the consultation for any park is around a 2 year process as well, if we wait to see what the Parks plan says, and then start to develop our parks, we are looking at at least 4 years before we see any park.

There will be a bit of internal struggles within the City moving forward as to the best approach, whether to start the long-delayed Scott property park development process, or wait for this park plan to be developed once the Downtown Plan is adopted in July.

JOA
03-04-2010, 11:16 AM
^^I'm not angry or rude either, and my point still stands.

Sorry about your accident - write a reminder to use the search box on a post it and stick it to your monitor in that case.

Sonic Death Monkey
03-04-2010, 11:25 AM
Can we get back to the new downtown park proposal now? Please?

GreenSPACE
03-04-2010, 11:53 AM
^I did ;)

IanO
03-04-2010, 05:20 PM
I would much rather see a tower on the scott property with a park on 103ave and 106st...

Sonic Death Monkey
03-04-2010, 06:00 PM
I would much rather see a tower on the scott property with a park on 103ave and 106st...

Healy lot?

jagators63
03-04-2010, 06:31 PM
is that where urbia tower is planning to built on the northeast corner of 106 st and 103 ave ?? but I know urbia website is suspended maybe 2 or 3 months ago

IanO
05-04-2010, 09:37 AM
I would much rather see a tower on the scott property with a park on 103ave and 106st...

Healy lot?

part of it.. the NE corner of 106st/103ave

why?

-It is significantly less busy than 105st.
-It is further from Beaver Hills
-It has more opportunity for residential near it
-It should get good sun
-It is closer to GMC and Norquest

IanO
05-04-2010, 09:38 AM
is that where urbia tower is planning to built on the northeast corner of 106 st and 103 ave ?? but I know urbia website is suspended maybe 2 or 3 months ago

please do some research, you have all of the answers around you.

edmonton daily photo
05-04-2010, 09:44 AM
Jag.. Urbia is to be located on 103 ave and 104 st.

This site would make a great park as well...

Sonic Death Monkey
05-04-2010, 09:45 AM
I would much rather see a tower on the scott property with a park on 103ave and 106st...

Healy lot?

part of it.. the NW corner of 106st/103ave

why?

-It is significantly less busy than 105st.
-It is further from Beaver Hills
-It has more opportunity for residential near it
-It should get good sun
-It is closer to GMC and Norquest

If you are advocating demolishing the Healy dealership building, I respectfully disagree. Those large windows and sidewalk space would make a wicked resto-bar spot w patio that would complement the Metro across the street.

IanO
05-04-2010, 09:48 AM
^haha sorry my bad... NE corner.

IanO
05-04-2010, 09:49 AM
Jag.. Urbia is to be located on 103 ave and 104 st.

This site would make a great park as well...

102ave

edmonton daily photo
05-04-2010, 10:01 AM
my bad... Is there an open lot on 103 ave too?

My goal would be to draw more life to the 103-104 ave block. It is a bit of a dead zone.

IanO
05-04-2010, 10:23 AM
Green are the two sites discussed above along with the light blue being where I wished the City would buy the odd sized lot and put in an urban 'court' for 2 half courts along with roller blading or even tennis.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x164/coldrsx/misc%20photos/WarehousePark.png

Sonic Death Monkey
05-04-2010, 10:30 AM
^ I approve. Mind you, I don't think it should be a one-or-the-other type thing, how about both? The more parks and greenspace, the better.

IanO
05-04-2010, 10:34 AM
^yes, but they should be incorporated into a development. We have a great park in Beaver Hills that is 1 block south of the Scott property. It has the potential to be a keystone lot for a new tower to continue the movement of the density west from the core.

Marcel Petrin
05-04-2010, 11:41 AM
My only concern with the two highlighted areas is that they're somewhat in "no mans land" at least as of right now. There's not much of any density in that area, either offices for daily usage or residences for evening/weekends. Obviously hopefully that would change fairly quickly but I'm not so sure that we won't end up with a really nice park that's only lightly used for quite some time.

IanO
05-04-2010, 11:45 AM
^beaver hill and louise mckinney are only lightly used...

Marcel Petrin
05-04-2010, 12:14 PM
I would disagree with you on Beaver Hill, it's used quite well during the day for people to take their lunch etc on a nice day. Louise McKinney absolutely I agree isn't well used.

I'm not arguing against those locations, I'm just saying that I do have a concern with them not being well used until the area fills in significantly, which may take decades.

IanO
05-04-2010, 01:03 PM
^It is my typical summer spot for lunch and it is used mediocre at best.

I agree it may take decades but a new urban park would contribute today.

Sonic Death Monkey
05-04-2010, 01:23 PM
As for the blue area, maybe that be the skateboard park?

edmonton daily photo
05-04-2010, 01:35 PM
I would like to see a large community Garden DT.

IanO
05-04-2010, 01:44 PM
^there is... bellamy and 102st.

Downtown downtown really does not work for one unless it is 1-2 floors up+ on a podium.

I'd rather see one in the north edge and perhaps the quarters eventually.

IanO
05-04-2010, 01:44 PM
As for the blue area, maybe that be the skateboard park?

such a single use though... whereas i'd bet more than a few people in the area would shoot some hoops, play tennis, or handball.

edmonton daily photo
05-04-2010, 01:47 PM
The Community Garden they they put in Oliver has drawn a lot of people into it.

Sonic Death Monkey
05-04-2010, 01:48 PM
^there is... bellamy and 102st.
Correction: Bellamy and 99 Ave, just south of the fenced-off land where a condo tower is supposed to be built.

IanO
05-04-2010, 01:51 PM
^yah yah yah... potato potaato.

EDP - They have done a great job with that but it is in a far more community/residential setting whereas the warehouse district should focus on density and include elements of that on roof or podium tops.

edmonton daily photo
05-04-2010, 01:54 PM
IYO I will add..

You can have all the things you listed along with garden plots.

Parks can be multi use after all ;-)

IanO
05-04-2010, 01:59 PM
^that they can be, but gardens in very urban cores need to be dealt with a little differently.

moahunter
05-04-2010, 02:00 PM
I like the little grass patch in Grandin by the LRT station, maybe something like that?