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grish
04-04-2009, 12:54 PM
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=edmonton&sll=53.383328,-113.291016&sspn=12.391002,39.550781&ie=UTF8&ll=53.548824,-113.517737&spn=0.012035,0.038624&z=15

anyone knows who owns this? (rail just south of 105th)

edmontonenthusiast
04-04-2009, 12:56 PM
If you're talking about the 105ave-104ave area, it was our former Downtown railyard, but I don't know why Google still has it in there, although I think parts of that line exist still outside of downtown.

Medwards
04-04-2009, 01:01 PM
North of downtown, its a Multi-use trail/park... follows 121st to the ECCA

Green Grovenor
04-04-2009, 03:12 PM
There is a mucho-fabulous book, The Railways of Edmonton, by Alan Vanterpool. It includes maps of every right-of-way that ever existed in this city, whether the company ever got around to putting down rails or not.

ee is right -- the line on the Google map is from the former downtown railyard, which was built by the Canadian Northern Railway in 1905. Most of it was abandoned in 1989. A small segment, between 97th and 101 Streets, remained in service for a while longer to provide access to the old VIA station in the basement of the CN building. Currently the line ends at the LRT maintenance facility south of Rexall Place. Flat cars carrying new equipment, to be transferred to LRT service, are sometimes parked on it.

Medwards correctly notes that the western portion was saved as a trail that heads north to 118th Avenue, where it meets up with the small spur that serves the new train station.

WLRT proposal Route 107 uses the portion of this corridor by the Molson's plant.

edmontonenthusiast
04-04-2009, 03:30 PM
I think there was a railyard on 109th in Railtown now, and it (I think) used the High Level bridge like the Streetcar. Anybody know when that closed? I cannot remember.

Green Grovenor
04-04-2009, 04:03 PM
Hi ee,

The CPR yards west of 109th Street were abandoned at the same time as the CNR yards north of 104th Avenue, in 1989-90.

When the High Level Bridge opened in 1913, the upper platform consisted of three lines, CPR in the middle with Edmonton Radial Railway streetcar tracks on either side.

24karat
04-04-2009, 04:04 PM
I think there was a railyard on 109th in Railtown now, and it (I think) used the High Level bridge like the Streetcar. Anybody know when that closed? I cannot remember.

There was a CPR station on the west side of 109th street and North of Jasper Avenue.
The trains would cross over Jasper Avenue on the rail overpass which was dismantled and which now is in storage at Fort Edmonton. The trains crossed the river on the top deck of the High Level Bridge and used the rail line that the streetcars now use from there to the South Side CPR station
at Whyte Avenue and 103 Street.

etownboarder
04-04-2009, 04:10 PM
The trains would cross over Jasper Avenue on the rail overpass which was dismantled and which now is in storage at Fort Edmonton.

Really? It's in storage? What would they possibly do with it?

Green Grovenor
04-04-2009, 04:24 PM
^ One proposal involves extending streetcar tracks out of Fort Edmonton. The bridge would cross Whitemud Creek.

Sonic Death Monkey
04-04-2009, 04:38 PM
I wish they had kept the downtown CN ROW available for LRT extension.

Green Grovenor
04-04-2009, 04:40 PM
Favourite story about the downtown CPR yards: the time the elephant escaped. It was part of a circus that travelled by train in 1926. After some panic, the unfortunate creature was captured while it grazed in the gardens of the General Hospital.

The elephant escaped again a few weeks later in the wilds of British Columbia, where it lived free for about 21 days, dying, I think, of a cold.

Caesar555
04-04-2009, 05:14 PM
Isn't this where the LRT will be on its way to NAIT?

Sonic Death Monkey
04-04-2009, 05:40 PM
^ No.

LindseyT
04-04-2009, 06:55 PM
There is a mucho-fabulous book, The Railways of Edmonton, by Alan Vanterpool. It includes maps of every right-of-way that ever existed in this city, whether the company ever got around to putting down rails or not.

I must find that book.